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[#2] Posted: 05/24/2004 - 1:58:40 PM |  | |
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"Is the bond in photo #1 necessary?"
No,unless that is a metal housing and it is within 5' of the pool.
I'm not sure what I'm looking at in picture #5.It could be a heater but I do not see a bond wire.
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[#3] Posted: 05/24/2004 - 3:34:04 PM |  | |
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Danny, While it's hard to see, the bottom right corner of the 11KW Spa heater has rusted away at the point of the previous connection for the bond wire. You are correct re: bonding of the metal filter case. The NEC requires bonding of all electrical equipment associated with circulation of the pool water. The filter is not electrical equipment. Very good. NORM SAGE
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[#4] Posted: 05/27/2004 - 05:10:28 AM |  | |
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Here's the bonding requirement chart from the NEC. The purpose of bonding is to create and maintain an equal potential electrical plane. So long as the components you simultaneously touch are of the same electrical potential you likely won't be in danger. NORM SAGE
Download Attachment: 016NEC_BONDING.JPG 171.52 KB
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[#5] Posted: 02/24/2006 - 11:55:49 AM |  | |
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The bonding wire in pic 4 doesn't look like a No.8 wire - looks too small. What's up with that?
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[#6] Posted: 02/24/2006 - 2:28:37 PM |  | |
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Martin, The conductor in photo #4 which attaches to a vertical metal support column is a solid #8. I verified it myself at the time I took the photo. NORM SAGE
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[#7] Posted: 02/24/2006 - 4:33:52 PM |  | |
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Norm! You're alive! Long time no see.
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[#8] Posted: 02/24/2006 - 11:08:24 PM |  | |
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Norm returns!
Welcome back Norm, to a place everyone knows your name...
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[#9] Posted: 02/26/2006 - 04:26:26 AM |  | |
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I must admit I've been lurking. I'm flattered to have been missed. NORM SAGE
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[#10] Posted: 02/27/2006 - 04:22:01 AM |  | |
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Let me guess. The PVC piping is not an electrical conductor and therefore will not take a short to ground.
Please don't criticize me if I am wrong cause I am sensitive.
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[#11] Posted: 02/27/2006 - 04:46:13 AM |  | |
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Paul, What you're referring to as "plastic piping" is Dek-0-Drain. It's a hollow plastic channel about 1 1/2" wide and 4" deep placed in a concrete pool deck so as to provide surface water drainage to a remote area. In this case the bond wire which was attached to the wire mesh just happened to come up through the concrete next to the Dek-O-Drain after which it was run along the surface to the metal support column. Most of the time the conductor is bugged onto the column below the concrete surface and you have to run a continuity test to verify its presence. NORM SAGE
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[#12] Posted: 11/22/2006 - 08:18:24 AM |  | |
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Norm, would you actually run a continuity test on a patio cover where the bond to it is under the concrete deck? If so how do you go about doing it?
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[#14] Posted: 11/22/2006 - 10:28:02 AM |  | |
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Kind of nice to see Norm's thread popping up at this time of year..
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[#15] Posted: 11/22/2006 - 10:32:57 AM |  | |
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Hi,
I thought it would be appropriate to leave Norm as one of our forum moderators for this category, so he'll always be with us in spirit.
ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!!
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[#17] Posted: 11/23/2006 - 8:29:05 PM |  | |
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Thanks allspec.
I have been looking through all the posts on pools and spas as I am starting to get into pool inspections - I am tired of loosing business because of it. What a great forum this is, and what an excellent teacher Norm was, sorry to hear he passed away. RIP
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