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[#1] Posted: 02/08/2012 - 06:40:01 AM
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northeast oklahoma home built 1975. it appears that a vapor barrier was applied just below the plywood sub-flooring and on top of the floor joists. then foil backed bat insulation was put up inside the joist bays. It appears to me that the insulation on this large home was applied up side down. But, since there is already a vapor barrier under the flooring, does this make this application okay? Also, one area of black mold was detected along the rim. what kind is it? most of the crawlspace was dry. just a little dampness under ducting etc...

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[#2] Posted: 02/08/2012 - 06:48:31 AM
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A vapor retarder "sandwich" can be as bad or worse than a vapor retarder installed backward.

Other than that, it looks like a basic mildly moldy crawlspace.

It doesn't matter "what kind" the mold is. Damp crawlspaces have mold.

Figure out how to dry out the crawlspace, and install a vapor barrier on the floor.


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[#3] Posted: 02/08/2012 - 06:53:26 AM
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That is what I was thinking. almost 8 thousand sq ft of replacing insulaiton and adding a floor barrier is going to be a bummer. but, it is what it is...thanks for the timely reply.
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[#4] Posted: 02/08/2012 - 08:18:34 AM
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The insulation is wrong.

Are you sure that's mold, or is it some kind of dark sill sealer?

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[#5] Posted: 02/08/2012 - 10:53:41 AM
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I thought the same thing.....it might be some sort of degrading sill sealer.

But, I bet it's moldy regardless.


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[#6] Posted: 02/08/2012 - 11:12:20 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by Jim Katen

The insulation is wrong.

Are you sure that's mold, or is it some kind of dark sill sealer?
Besides the black line which could be sealer, that sill and those joists have a greyish tint that could be mould.
No doubt there is work to do in that crawlspace.

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[#7] Posted: 02/09/2012 - 05:04:48 AM
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It is definitely mold. It was also on the dirt floor of the crawlspace in the middle of spans where no sealer would be applied. Thanks again for all of your replies.
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[#8] Posted: 02/09/2012 - 06:03:00 AM
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There are two positives though:
The insulation is so poorly installed that it won't be too difficult to remove.
And, the foil vapor barrier has so many holes in it that it isn't likely to have caused any significant damage.

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