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[#1] Posted: Mar 11 2010 - 9:15:45 PM
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Has anyone ever seen this blue foundation damp-proof material before? It's a first for me. It obviously has not adhered. The house is 3 years old and never occupied. The buyer is freaked out about moisture/mold issues (she had a guy there running around taking air samples during the inspection).

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Not related, but just for laughs, here are two more issues (of many) that this million dollar house had. It was originally listed for 1.5 million when it was completed 2 and a half years ago.

The patio under the deck is below the surrounding grade. As if that's not enough, it slopes back to the building.

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Above the patio, the deck ledger board is attached to the stucco.

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I won't even mention the roof issues!

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[#2] Posted: Mar 11 2010 - 9:23:33 PM
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I'd say her fears of mold issues on this house are warranted.

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[#3] Posted: Mar 11 2010 - 9:41:27 PM
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You've got a point there, Marc. The last time she was in the house, she said there was a big puddle where this stain is.

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Jeez, I wonder if it had anything to do with the missing gutter at the roof over the rear half of the 4 car garage. The water dropping down scoured a nice gravel channel that ran back toward the house. As a bonus, the downspout that drained the other half of the garage roof was perfectly positioned to take advantage of that gravel lined channel to make a beeline back to the foundation. That took some real planning!


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[#4] Posted: Mar 12 2010 - 04:31:28 AM
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Hey Joe, whats up with the shingle spacing? Are they meant to show that black gravel line instead of covering with the "colored" area?
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[#5] Posted: Mar 12 2010 - 04:35:09 AM
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Is it Stucco or EFIS Joe?
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Ben: The black line is meant to be exposed. It's supposed to make the roof resemble slate when viewed from a distance. You can sort of see the effect here. Nice valley, eh?

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Terry: It's masonry stucco.

Since we're on a roll, here's another goody. This is the wall that shields the driveway from the road:

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Quote: Originally posted by Inspectorjoe

Ben: The black line is meant to be exposed. It's supposed to make the roof resemble slate when viewed from a distance.


Fail.

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[#8] Posted: Mar 12 2010 - 11:46:22 AM
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That roofer should be hung by his thumbs and flogged with one of those shingles. The builder should be forced to watch so he knows what to expect when he takes his turn.

Ben, those are high end Certainteed shingles, Cape Hatteras I think, and run about $280-300 a square.

$1 million sure does get you a big turd these days.

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Quote: Originally posted by Tom Raymond

$1 million sure does get you a big turd these days.

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If that bothers you, I guess you don't want to come out here and tour some Sunday open houses. The sticker shock just for what you'd pay out here for a beat up 50 year old POS would probably put you into therapy until the end of your days.

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[#10] Posted: Mar 12 2010 - 12:12:25 PM
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Back to the original question:

http://www.bluesealwaterproofi...ew.shtml

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[#11] Posted: Mar 12 2010 - 12:37:42 PM
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Thanks Mike!

Before I posted, I tried finding it on Google, but I guess I didn't use the correct terms.

I just uploaded the report. Six hours at the inspection and another 5-6 to do the report. At least I had a little fun with it. This picture was included in the report to illustrate how some window lock sections don't align. I couldn't help but include a little unrelated editorial comment.

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Quote: Originally posted by Tom Raymond


$1 million sure does get you a big turd these days.

Tom


Amen.

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[#13] Posted: Mar 12 2010 - 2:53:01 PM
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Maybe it just doesn't line up becaue you're one of them there left handed photographers!!


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[#14] Posted: Mar 12 2010 - 3:02:52 PM
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Thread drift alert...

Your avatar cracks me up a bit Joe... from that picture it looks like you're getting ready to take a big bite out of a shingle and snow pizza.

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Thanks Mike!

Before I posted, I tried finding it on Google, but I guess I didn't use the correct terms.

I just uploaded the report. Six hours at the inspection and another 5-6 to do the report. At least I had a little fun with it. This picture was included in the report to illustrate how some window lock sections don't align. I couldn't help but include a little unrelated editorial comment.

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That is too funny.

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I'm not even sure how it's possible to install a window that badly. What'd they do? Load 'em in a cannon and shoot 'em at the wall?

You can imagine how well the flashing pan and dams are installed........


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Flashing pans? Dams? Pffffhhhtt!

Nyuk,

If you asked a builder around here about flashing pans and dams he wouldn't have even the feintest idea what you were talking about. Moistop and it's cousins are king around here these days. They haven't a clue.

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Shoot, I'd be glad to see Moistop most of the time........

Even though I'm saying this through gritted teeth, a decently installed membrane pan and dams will work. If it's decently installed.


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Quote: Originally posted by kurt

Even though I'm saying this through gritted teeth, a decently installed membrane pan and dams will work. If it's decently installed.

C'mon now. . . don't be like one of those old time plumbers who used to think that this new copper pipe stuff would never take off.


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Quote: If you asked a builder around here about flashing pans and dams he wouldn't have even the feintest idea what you were talking about.


It's probably just a difference in terminology but just to get on board with everybody else here, what the heck is flashing 'pans and dams'?

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Quote: Originally posted by Marc

Quote: If you asked a builder around here about flashing pans and dams he wouldn't have even the feintest idea what you were talking about.


It's probably just a difference in terminology but just to get on board with everybody else here, what the heck is flashing 'pans and dams'?

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I'd like to know as well.

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Quote: Originally posted by Marc

Quote: If you asked a builder around here about flashing pans and dams he wouldn't have even the feintest idea what you were talking about.


It's probably just a difference in terminology but just to get on board with everybody else here, what the heck is flashing 'pans and dams'?

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He's talking about sill pans for windows - a sheet metal flashing that goes over the bottom of a window's rough opening. It should include end dams and, sometimes but not always, a rear dam. I recommend them all the time on doors, but no windows so much. I feel that flexible peel & stick is fine there.

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Nobody bothers to learn this stuff anymore.

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Nobody bothers to learn this stuff anymore.


Thanks Jim.

Interesting drawing Mike! That's the first time I've ever seen or heard of a wooden sill and header installed on brick veneer.

Is this drawing suggesting that today's 'drainage plane/brick sill/weep hole' configuration is inadequate?

Anyone have a picture of one on a house?

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