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[#1] Posted: 10/01/2010 - 5:38:38 PM
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OK, I'm claiming the world's record for the tallest free-standing deck until one of you left coasters put up a taller one overlooking the Pacific, or hanging on the side of one of the Rocky Mountains.

I called for a general contractor to thoroughly inspect the deck and modify it as needed to comply with current code requirements, including but not limited to, adding diagonal bracing on the inside columns and joist hangers. (It was nicely anchored to the masonry piers, and, although it was not bolted to the building, it could not be made to budge laterally against the house.)

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[#2] Posted: 10/01/2010 - 7:24:26 PM
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That's quite possibly one of the ugliest things I've seen.

I read an article where an architect bashed all decks simply because they always look like plant-ons and an eyesore that have nothing to do with the house (architecturally). Since then, my dis-like for any sort of deck, regardless of design or aesthetic, is starting to grow.

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[#3] Posted: 10/01/2010 - 7:46:40 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by randynavarro

That's quite possibly one of the ugliest things I've seen.

I read an article where an architect bashed all decks simply because they always look like plant-ons and an eyesore that have nothing to do with the house (architecturally). Since then, my dis-like for any sort of deck, regardless of design or aesthetic, is starting to grow.


Oh, I wholeheartedly agree. It is incredibly ugly. I am definitely not a deck fan and have never spent a minute more than necessary on one. They're simply a wood beach - equally as hot. The best thing I ever did was covert my last deck to a wonderful screened in porch.

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[#4] Posted: 10/01/2010 - 8:00:15 PM
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What would you do with the joist hangers? The joists are supported from below by beams.

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[#5] Posted: 10/01/2010 - 8:06:24 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by randynavarro

That's quite possibly one of the ugliest things I've seen.

I read an article where an architect bashed all decks simply because they always look like plant-ons and an eyesore that have nothing to do with the house (architecturally). Since then, my dis-like for any sort of deck, regardless of design or aesthetic, is starting to grow.
The back of the house is quite hideous anyway. The deck is just one extra whack wit' da ugly stick.

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[#6] Posted: 10/01/2010 - 8:30:41 PM
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I'd be careful with handrail height also. In Canada anything over 6' tall must have 42" high handrails. Don't want anyone falling over that...
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[#7] Posted: 10/01/2010 - 8:37:10 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by Marc

What would you do with the joist hangers? The joists are supported from below by beams.

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I wasn't particularly worried about the support. The joists are merely toe-nailed into the header joist. Hangers will be a much better form of attachment. Actually, it's about impossible to meet current fastening requirements through toe-nailing.

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[#8] Posted: 10/02/2010 - 1:32:29 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by mgbinspect

Quote: Originally posted by Marc

What would you do with the joist hangers? The joists are supported from below by beams.

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I wasn't particularly worried about the support. The joists are merely toe-nailed into the header joist. Hangers will be a much better form of attachment. Actually, it's about impossible to meet current fastening requirements through toe-nailing.

I'm with Marc on this. The force would be in the wrong direction for joist hangers. If you want the "rim-joists"/fascia boards better secured I would suggest angles instead. http://www.strongtie.com/produ.../MLZ.asp
And hurricane ties, etc as that deck looks very vulnerable to wind uplift.

Frankly, the whole free-standing thing looks scary, particularly the brick columns, no matter how well the wood structure is tied together. But then I live in an earthquake zone.

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[#9] Posted: 10/02/2010 - 1:38:09 PM
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Yes, angles would be even better.
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[#10] Posted: 10/02/2010 - 2:39:37 PM
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How were the wooden piers anchored to the brick columns? Those, clearly, are the most critical connections for this deck.
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[#11] Posted: 10/02/2010 - 3:03:13 PM
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I didn't photograph the affair, but, being originally a steel detailer, it appeared to be custom made. It was roughly a 3/8" - 1/2" hot-dipped galvanized plate steel angle - one leg served as the bearing plate and the other leg was thru-bolted to the wood column base. Apparently, anchorage to the masonry was either welded to the back side of the bearing leg or came up through that leg in the form of a threaded rod to be bolted down. (A good weld is stronger than the steel itself.) And no doubt, unless the county was stupid, there's steel up throught the center of the masonry piers.

I wasn't too concerned about attachment.

The dang thing is like the tower of Babel.

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