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[#2] Posted: 04/05/2012 - 10:57:14 AM |  |  |
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30 years in the stucco business? As what, a marketing guy?
No expansion joints, no accessory joints under windows. Of course it cracked.
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[#3] Posted: 04/05/2012 - 11:22:19 AM | | |
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So, is a "perspective buyer" one that gets smaller as he gets farther away?
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[#4] Posted: 04/05/2012 - 11:29:41 AM | | |
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Ouch,
Your just mean, Jim.
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[#5] Posted: 04/05/2012 - 11:59:42 AM | | |
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Ok you got me Yes they become smaller after reading the eval. That happens as they walk away
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[#8] Posted: 04/05/2012 - 2:23:05 PM | | |
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My feelings are hurt that is the only thing you find interesting. Bad Form
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[#10] Posted: 04/05/2012 - 3:22:46 PM | | |
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Lucky they didn't put drywall over the hole in the garage wall. It would have been your opinion versus the signed letter from the 30 year vet.
That house will sell to the first guy who knows too much about houses to get a home inspector in.
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[#12] Posted: 04/05/2012 - 7:59:12 PM | | |
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Quote: Originally posted by Jim KatenQuote: Originally posted by hausdok
Ouch,
Your just mean, Jim.
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Hey, I was responding to the only interesting thing in the post. I could have picked on other stuff, but that would have been boring, like pointing out the difference between "your" and "you're".
Give it a few more years. When your own brain starts turning to pudding you'll start mixing them up yourself.
Putting my diaper on now. Gonna go sit in the corner and suck my thumb.
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[#13] Posted: 04/05/2012 - 11:06:41 PM | | |
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Wait... you can put your own diaper on?
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[#14] Posted: 04/06/2012 - 08:50:09 AM | | |
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Oh and I forgot to tell you the real estate agent that originally hired me is not happy with me because I called out the siding again
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[#16] Posted: 04/06/2012 - 6:08:00 PM | | |
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Quote: Originally posted by hausdokQuote: Originally posted by tybertown29
Oh and I forgot to tell you the real estate agent that originally hired me is not happy with me because I called out the siding again
The next time the agent starts busting your balls about an inspection, remind the agent that you have a standard of practice that you must comply with. Tell him that the days of the good 'ol boy inspectors and agents winking at each other and scratching each others' backs in order to make sales work and to get referrals here in Washington state is supposed to be behind us; and that you now have a code of ethics you must follow or risk the loss of your license, just like he does. Point out that the division of DOL that administers your license in Olympia is the exact same group of folks that administers real estate licenses; and that he's free to call Rhonda Myers, the inspector program manager, at Real Estate Licensing Division (360-664-6524) and register a complaint with her if he thinks you didn't inspect the home in accordance with the SOP or violated the code of ethics. Rhonda is a former real estate agent but she likes us guys and wants us to do good inspections. She'll put him in his place real fast the first time he starts complaining that you queered the deal by doing a thorough SOP compliant inspection and following your code of ethics.
In this case, I suspect that the real estate agent is upset because he's also the owner/flipper of the property. I doubt that he gives a rat's ass about standards, codes, or what Rhonda has to say.
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[#17] Posted: 04/07/2012 - 05:38:09 AM | | |
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-In this case, I suspect that the real estate agent is upset because he's also the owner/flipper of the property. I doubt that he gives a rat's ass about standards, codes, or what Rhonda has to say.-
I'll bet dollars to donuts Jim is spot on.
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[#18] Posted: 04/07/2012 - 07:29:56 AM | | |
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In this case, I suspect that the real estate agent is upset because he's also the owner/flipper of the property. I doubt that he gives a rat's ass about standards, codes, or what Rhonda has to say. Yeah,
I got that, which is why I said, "The next time." Ferndale is a small place and the guy will probably hold a grudge.
The agent is a little bit hamstrung on this one; after all, he hired Kirk in the first place seven months ago. If he starts braying to the buyer that he shouldn't listen to Kirk because he doesn't know what he's talking about, the buyer is going to know it's B.S. because the agent had hired Kirk to inspect the home when he bought it, so the agent is left fuming.
The day will undoubtedly come when they meet on another job, where the agent isn't the owner of the home, at which point the agent is probably going to do whatever he can to bust Kirk's balls. There's no better way to shut that stuff down in my opinion than to drop the hint to the agent that if he crosses the line his real estate license could be in jeopardy.
It's easy to just say, "Sorry, Bud, but I had to report that stuff, 'cuz my SOP says I have to." It's another thing to say it in such a way that reminds the agent, without bracing him, that he too has limitations on his own conduct and that the same very small group of persons that oversees Kirk's conduct and license is the same that oversees the agent's.
Directly bracing the agent in a small town will have a ripple effect if the agent starts running his mouth. Kirk needs to subtly cause the agent to think about what the consequences could be of wanting Kirk to cross the line out of loyalty to him because he'd previously referred work to Kirk.
Sorry if that was lost on folks.
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[#19] Posted: 04/07/2012 - 07:57:46 AM | | |
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That's the problem whatcom county is very small and even though there are rules and regulations governing inspectors and real estate agents it does not prevnet them from black balling the inspectors that do it right. It happens all the time up here.
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[#20] Posted: 04/07/2012 - 08:20:43 AM | | |
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I grew up in a town of 1100 folks. Believe me, I get it. Where I come from, if you got up in someone's face most folks would consider you to be an a**hole for doing so; even if you were right - it's just not considered proper or polite. So, you have to do it in such a way that Mr. dipwad gets the message but can't go around telling folks you'd threatened him directly with loss of his license for suggesting or hinting you should have been nearsighted (If that's what you meant when you said he was not too happy with you).
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[#21] Posted: 04/07/2012 - 10:43:55 AM | | |
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[#22] Posted: 04/08/2012 - 08:06:20 AM | | |
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why is stucco used?
cheap choice by the builder, or a style thing?
seems in my limited view that stucco failes over anything except concrete?
its always "well this new type stucco is problem free, or this new installation method is problem free.
why do people use stucco?
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[#24] Posted: 04/08/2012 - 08:34:20 AM | | |
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I'm a little confused... the pics to me look more like EIFS than stucco...I don't think the two words are interchangable, but maybe I am way off base.
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[#26] Posted: 04/09/2012 - 05:42:12 AM | | |
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The first pis looks like a typical crack at the intersection of eps boards at a corner, this is the pic that threw me off. The last two pics do not look like the back of EPS boards, so I stand corrected.
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Stucco eval letter 001.pdf
