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[#2] Posted: 06/15/2012 - 1:55:19 PM |  |  |
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I don't have an exact code reference, but it's 10' max to first point of disconnect in my area, at least in most municipalities here. Might check with the power company and see if they can provide any insight?
I thought it was in the NEC but it might just list something like "as close as possible" or something similar.
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[#3] Posted: 06/15/2012 - 2:45:07 PM | | |
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| Quote: 230.70 (1) Readily Accessible Location. The service disconnecting
means shall be installed at a readily accessible location
either outside of a building or structure or inside nearest the
point of entrance of the service conductors.
That's open to a little bit of interpretation and some local AHJ rules, but I think 15' would exceed any of those. And then there's this...
Quote: 230.72 Grouping of Disconnects.
(A) General. The two to six disconnects as permitted in
230.71 shall be grouped. Each disconnect shall be marked
to indicate the load served.
So the basement one is 99.99% likely to be wrong (I would leave it to the seller/electrician to provide a reference otherwise). And the ungrouped one in the kitchen is even wrongerer (technical term). If the guy's really a sparky and he wants to sell his house,...well, the fix shouldn't be that difficult. However, I'm not so sure that I would want this particular guy doing any more work on my new house!
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[#4] Posted: 06/15/2012 - 10:34:28 PM | | |
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The distance can be increased if the SEC's are in conduit buried in concrete.
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Just curious, is that kitchen panel fed from the first panel or is it also set up as a main?
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[#7] Posted: 06/19/2012 - 5:35:24 PM | | |
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don't need a disconnect unless the service is more than 5 feet from entering the house
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[#9] Posted: 06/20/2012 - 06:48:21 AM | | |
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When I went back to pick up the radon equipment the (electrician) owner was there. He asked about the inspection and I told him about my concern with the panels locations and not having a single main disconnect close to the service entrance. He siad "Dosen't the meter count as a single disconnect". He must not do mush residential electrical work...
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[#10] Posted: 06/20/2012 - 07:59:35 AM | | |
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Actually, that sounds like an accurate description.
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[#11] Posted: 06/20/2012 - 09:49:12 AM | | |
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Actually sounds like someone that does not know what a disconnect is or proper safety procedures. The requirements for a disconnect are the same for commercial.
Pulling a meter is not a disconnect in the eyes of the NEC, nor is pulling one under a load safe.
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[#12] Posted: 06/20/2012 - 2:12:31 PM | | |
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In a way, it can translate into a disconnect because the circuit can be opened by pulling the meter out, but code-wise, no. I think this may explain what was going on inside that electrician's head. A few shorted circuits in there maybe.
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[#14] Posted: 10/11/2012 - 04:26:26 AM | | |
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If this is a single family house then there is already an issue with "Grouping" of disconnects. The meter is not a disconnect.
There is no hard and steadfast rule for the distance within a home that the disconnect needs to be one it enters the structure. That is subjective to the AHJ. I have routinely allowed 10' or more if there were plumbing/mechanical equipment in the way and the service conductors were kept in conduit.
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[#15] Posted: 10/11/2012 - 1:48:11 PM | | |
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Not one of you mentioned 'why' this is a problem...
Our entire profession should be aware of 'why' something should be the way it is 'supposed to be'..
So.. who knows 'the why' of this? :)
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