fyrmnk Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Hi all, installing new kitchen cabinets. I prefer to solder the copper lines, but due to space constrictions not sure I'll be able to. Considering Sharkbite fittings and manual compression fittings and looking for input. Are the manual compression ones similar in durability to Sharkbites? Any known issues with either? I could solder extensions on them while the old base cabinet is out if I have to to be able to solder my valves back on, but don't really want any unneeded new fittings in the lines if I could avoid it. Most Sharkbite reviews I've read were good, just looking for any other input from you folks. Thanks, Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I would go compression. They are less than 1/3 the price of shark bite and can be removed and replaced if they leak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrmnk Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I would go compression. They are less than 1/3 the price of shark bite and can be removed and replaced if they leak. Thanks, Sharkbite says it can be removed and reused. The manual compression ones can too? Old ones I replaced had the crimp inside it that grips the pipe so had to cut them off before I sweated new ones on. Could have been because they were so old maybe? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 The Sharkbites have a tool that slips around the pipe that you use to release the gripper rings to remove them. I would only use them where they are accessible for inspection and replacement. Time will tell how long the rubber gaskets will last. The compression rings you had to cut were copper? Those rings can't be replaced but they last forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I would go compression. They are less than 1/3 the price of shark bite and can be removed and replaced if they leak. Thanks, Sharkbite says it can be removed and reused. The manual compression ones can too? Old ones I replaced had the crimp inside it that grips the pipe so had to cut them off before I sweated new ones on. Could have been because they were so old maybe? Thanks again. The nut and ferrule stay, the valve comes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Just changed my water heater 'bout two weeks ago. I chose sharkbite over copper and it was a piece of cake. Went fast, no issues. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrmnk Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I would go compression. They are less than 1/3 the price of shark bite and can be removed and replaced if they leak. Thanks, Sharkbite says it can be removed and reused. The manual compression ones can too? Old ones I replaced had the crimp inside it that grips the pipe so had to cut them off before I sweated new ones on. Could have been because they were so old maybe? Thanks again. Aww, got ya. Misread, thought you were saying they could be removed and reused. Might just go that route if I can't sweat them, since the originals lasted 30 years. The nut and ferrule stay, the valve comes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrmnk Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Just changed my water heater 'bout two weeks ago. I chose sharkbite over copper and it was a piece of cake. Went fast, no issues. Marc Thanks, if I can't sweat or get wrenches in for compression, might spring for these. Haven't been able to find much about failures with them, didn't know if anyone else has. Have heard even less about compression failing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Anecdotally, I've seen a dozen or so leaking faster than water evaporates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Meiland Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Compression fittings are permanent, IMO. I've used quite a few couplings, and probably hundreds of compression angle stops. They do not leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I've used sharkbite in a few applications and have had no problems. They are expensive but if it is only a few connections it is worth the extra money IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Sharkbite fittings work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Used Sharkbites one time in a crunch situation. Work like a dream. So good, it was hard to believe. They can be disassembled. In most jobs, though, I go compression. Cheap, easy, time says they work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector57 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I just used shark bites in an underground main supply to replace a sweat fitting in a 1" copper line. Time will tell if it was worth it or not. I did not find any documentation on the burial of the product. It was kind of tough to manipulate the slip repair coupling while standing on my head in a narrow trench after fighting mud for 6 hours but it it held when I finally got it in place. I screwed up the first fitting though trying to force it over an out of round pipe. I finally cut back enough pipe to get to a clean section and it worked. I figure anything else short of silfoss would have failed in that situation so I'm feeling pretty good with Shark bite so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenT Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Shark bites are great and I've used them quite a bit. I'm able to remove them by hand and without the special tool. The only thing to bear in mind when using Sharkbites is that they do not conduct electricity, so if applicable they must be bonded over to maintain continuity.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrmnk Posted January 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Thanks guys for all the input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummen Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 I just used shark bites in an underground main supply to replace a sweat fitting in a 1" copper line. Time will tell if it was worth it or not. I did not find any documentation on the burial of the product. It was kind of tough to manipulate the slip repair coupling while standing on my head in a narrow trench after fighting mud for 6 hours but it it held when I finally got it in place. I screwed up the first fitting though trying to force it over an out of round pipe. I finally cut back enough pipe to get to a clean section and it worked. I figure anything else short of silfoss would have failed in that situation so I'm feeling pretty good with Shark bite so far. Any fitting used on a copper water service buried in the ground should either be silver soldered or a flared fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasterko Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Shark bites are great and I've used them quite a bit. I'm able to remove them by hand and without the special tool. The only thing to bear in mind when using Sharkbites is that they do not conduct electricity, so if applicable they must be bonded over to maintain continuity.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummen Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I just used shark bites in an underground main supply to replace a sweat fitting in a 1" copper line. Time will tell if it was worth it or not. I did not find any documentation on the burial of the product. It was kind of tough to manipulate the slip repair coupling while standing on my head in a narrow trench after fighting mud for 6 hours but it it held when I finally got it in place. I screwed up the first fitting though trying to force it over an out of round pipe. I finally cut back enough pipe to get to a clean section and it worked. I figure anything else short of silfoss would have failed in that situation so I'm feeling pretty good with Shark bite so far. Around here underground water service work needs to be either hard soldered or hammer flared couplings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Sorrells Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Whit Sharkbite I would recommend that you chamfer (bevel) the ends. A small nick in the O-ring will come back to haunt you. It may take 6 months to a year before it starts leaking. Else. well prepared ends and caution, leaves you with a good easy connection. Longevity is another question; 5 yrs, 10yrs, 20yrs, 30yrs or more. We don't know yet. I have been using them for 10+ yrs and have seen a few failures due to installation technique. PS; Almost forgot to mention. Don't forget about elect bonding when using Sharkbite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BazBaz77 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I really prefer compression fittings (link deleted) because that's what i'm used to, lol. But I have a few friends who would really recommend sharkbite! Plus, as mentioned above, compression fittings are a lot less expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plummen2 Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 1/25/2015 at 6:45 PM, fyrmnk said: They make a puller for the feruls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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