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John Dirks Jr

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I had an inspection where a breaker in the main panel tripped every time switches in a bathroom were flipped.

Another strange thing is the GFCI in that same bathroom. It would not trip with the button on my tester. However, when I pushed the test button on the GFCI itself it would click into the tripped mode, or so one would think. The thing is, whether tripped or not the receptacle still had power to it. When tripped, it did shut off power to down leg receptacles in other bathrooms but it never lost power to its own receptacle.

Sound confusing? What do you think could be going on here?

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Another strange thing is the GFCI in that same bathroom. It would not trip with the button on my tester. However, when I pushed the test button on the GFCI itself it would click into the tripped mode, or so one would think. The thing is, whether tripped or not the receptacle still had power to it. When tripped, it did shut off power to down leg receptacles in other bathrooms but it never lost power to its own receptacle.

Sound confusing? What do you think could be going on here?

John, the GFCI was installed with the wires mixed up going to the load terminals and the line terminals. If the the wires coming into the outlet are installed on the load terminals instead of line terminals, that's what happens.
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And it is wired wrong. After installing GFCI outlets they should always be tested for proper operation.

Amen. If every electrician did that, I wouldn't find that in new construction. But I do find that a lot.

John, it sounds like that bath GFI was doing its job. Turning off power because of a wiring fault.

Another GFCI headscratcher - you test, lose power but it does not trip, there's another GFCI somewhere upstream that has tripped. Push the button on the receptacle, it trips, but won't reset. It won't reset without power.[:-weepn]

You have to go find the other breaker and reset that one first. [:-weepn]

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Yeah, that part is funny but the whole thing is crappy boilerplate.

Just about all of my boilerplate is funny, and crappy. [;)]

Marc

Goodness, I think you're developing a sense of humor.

Always have had a strong sense of humor. My wife loves it, but it's keyed into...behavior, facial expressions and such. Doesn't show at all across the internet or via texting. Wouldn't show on a phone conversation, if I could do them. Don't like the emoticons much either.

I've merely adjusted...finally.

Marc

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Man walks into the doctor’s office with two black eyes and an 8 iron wrapped around his neck.

Doc asks ‘how did that happen?’

Playing golf with my wife was the reply.

What?

Yeah; seems my wife hooked her tee shot out of bounds into a cow pasture. We both went looking for her ball when I saw a white spot on one of the cow’s rump. I slowly walked over to the cow, lifted the cows tail and sure enough, a golf ball was stuck in the cows ass.

While holding up the tail, I shouted over to my wife; “Honey, this looks likes yoursâ€

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John O'Reilly hoisted his beer and said, "Here's to spending the rest of me life, between the legs of me wife!"

That won him the top prize at the pub for the best toast of the night!

He went home and told his wife, Mary, "I won the prize for the Best toast of the night."

She said, "Aye, did ye now. And what was your toast?"

John said, "Here's to spending the rest of me life, sitting in church beside me wife."

"Oh, that is very nice indeed, John!" Mary said.

The next day, Mary ran into one of John's drinking buddies on the street corner.

The man chuckled leeringly and said, "John won the prize the other night at the pub with a toast about you, Mary."

She said, "Aye, he told me, and I was a bit surprised myself. You know, he's only been in there twice in the last four years. Once he fell asleep, and the other time I had to pull him by the ears to make him come."

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And it is wired wrong. After installing GFCI outlets they should always be tested for proper operation.

Amen. If every electrician did that, I wouldn't find that in new construction. But I do find that a lot.

John, it sounds like that bath GFI was doing its job. Turning off power because of a wiring fault.

Another GFCI headscratcher - you test, lose power but it does not trip, there's another GFCI somewhere upstream that has tripped. Push the button on the receptacle, it trips, but won't reset. It won't reset without power.[:-weepn]

You have to go find the other breaker and reset that one first. [:-weepn]

I've been through that more then once before. It was not the case this time.

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