Erby Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 What difference does it make if water runs down the brick instead of into the gutter. Front view Click to Enlarge 57.13 KB Kick out flashing isn't quite doing the job Click to Enlarge 66.58 KB In the crawl space under the area Click to Enlarge 40.37 KB Why it's worth pulling back the insulation Click to Enlarge 46.23 KB For some reason, I always have a big sigh of relief when I find this kind of stuff. Maybe because I know it won't come back to bite me because I didn't find it. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Lewis Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Erby, no concrete over the plastic sheating in the crawlspace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Wow, one can tell times are tough when mini-mansions are built over crawls with dirt floors. Must belong to one of those Politocos barely scraping by on $400K a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Concrete crawl space floors are rare here in Kentucky. Almost all are dirt or pea gravel over dirt covered with plastic vapor barrier. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Whitmore Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Wow, one can tell times are tough when mini-mansions are built over crawls with dirt floors. Must belong to one of those Politocos barely scraping by on $400K a year. Didn't know there was anything but dirt floors in a crawlspace......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Just like Eddie Rabbit, "we love a rainy night", when we inspect a leaky house. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Wow, one can tell times are tough when mini-mansions are built over crawls with dirt floors. Must belong to one of those Politocos barely scraping by on $400K a year. Say what? They built multi-million dollar homes over crawlspaces out here with nothing but 6mil poly over the dirt. Concrete over the dirt is extremely rare out here. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 This is the land-O-basements. A house like the OP would be very unlikely to have a crawl, and if it did, it would be a very small percentage of the footprint, be 3-4' high, and have a concrete floor. We still have out share of crawls, just not at that price point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 This is the land-O-basements. A house like the OP would be very unlikely to have a crawl, and if it did, it would be a very small percentage of the footprint, be 3-4' high, and have a concrete floor. We still have out share of crawls, just not at that price point. In general, I think it has more to do with frost depth than price point. In your area, you have to get the footings so deep that a basement is a logical next step. Out here, our footings only need to be 12" below grade, so adding a basement is a large, and very expensive, step beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 In general, I think it has more to do with frost depth than price point. In your area, you have to get the footings so deep that a basement is a logical next step. Out here, our footings only need to be 12" below grade, so adding a basement is a large, and very expensive, step beyond that. If you don't have a basement, where do you keep your stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I've never seen a basement in my area yet. The first basement I ever saw with my own eyes was beneath the dorms at college in Rochester. I keep my stuff in my workshop. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 This is the land-O-basements. A house like the OP would be very unlikely to have a crawl, and if it did, it would be a very small percentage of the footprint, be 3-4' high, and have a concrete floor. We still have out share of crawls, just not at that price point. In general, I think it has more to do with frost depth than price point. In your area, you have to get the footings so deep that a basement is a logical next step. Out here, our footings only need to be 12" below grade, so adding a basement is a large, and very expensive, step beyond that. Yeah, I get that part. Unless there is a geological obstacle (boulders or bedrock) or a geographical one (having to haul away the soils), a full basement is only a couple thousand more than a full crawl, and only a few hundred more than a partial. It's a no-brainer. My point was that there'd be no dirt within the envelope at that price point and build date, it would be covered with concrete. It's a regional thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randynavarro Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 In general, I think it has more to do with frost depth than price point. In your area, you have to get the footings so deep that a basement is a logical next step. Out here, our footings only need to be 12" below grade, so adding a basement is a large, and very expensive, step beyond that. If you don't have a basement, where do you keep your stuff? The garage. . . c'mon, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgbinspect Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Then, there's always the American way: get a storage facility and pay enough in a year to replace everything in the storage facility on an annual basis - the most costly possessions on the planet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpdewitt Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Chad, Randy is correct for my area. Only society I know of where people buy expensive cars, then leave them out in the weather (sun here) to degrade while they keep mostly worthless junk filling the garage. MGB, shocking truth, there are 4 square feet of storage (not including that owned by the person storing the stuff) for every man, woman and child in the US. There are many places globally where people would love to have those 4 SF just to have enough room to live in. I believe the source of that stat is Nat Geo TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Like Marc, we don't have a lot of below-ground basements here. They just fill up with rainwater. Walk-in basement set into the hill are pretty common. View lots, eh? As a rule, crawlspaces after 1970 have a concrete skim coat over a poly vapor barrier. The concrete doesn't need to be a slab, just enough to protect the poly and make a nice floor to creep around on. Storage hurts our economy. Throw it out so you can buy more Chinese product, so they can lend us more cash. [:-party] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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