JosephVelder Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 So I made this drawing in Paint, and I was hoping ya'll could take a look at it and let me know if you see any issues I need to change. THANK YOU!!! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Any windows on that wall where the 3.5" vent terminates under the eave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 3 1/2"?? Where'd that come from? There's 2", 3", 4". BTW Joseph, you're pretty doggone good with Paint. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephVelder Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 yes, there are three windows across that wall. each window is 3x6, I didn't even think of the windows, is this a problem? Marc, the pipes say 2 1/2 and 3 1/2 on them , i'll get a picture of it in the morning. Paint is the only program i can draw with [:-slaphap i tried CAD and others but i sucked at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I think you could reduce the number of vents to 3 by venting the kitchen sink with the laundry and tying the 3" vents together. The main stack could go up the second storey wall to the upper level. I am not a plumber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 What plumbing code are you on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephVelder Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 What plumbing code are you on? I'm in North Louisiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Louisiana State Plumbing Code, consisting of the 1994 edition of the Standard Plumbing Code with revisions by some 1999 amendments. And they say it's Kentucky that's ass-backwards! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 The schematic suggests you might be able to get by with fewer roof penetrations (potential leaks), but practical realities of layout might dictate otherwise. You don't want a vent terminating near openable windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericwlewis Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 3 1/2"?? Where'd that come from? There's 2", 3", 4". BTW Joseph, you're pretty doggone good with Paint. Marc i googled those oddball sizes and found this site. http://www.spudtech.com/detail.asp?id=34 I know this is 2" but who knew there was a call for rifled pvc?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericwlewis Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 a word of warning, in 1999 I built an addition with a bathroom, kitchen and laundry room. They are all vented appropriately and have worked fine for years but lately the washing machine drain is causing "glugging" in the kitchen sink. I opened the wall behind the washer to confirm a vent, check. I went on the roof to confirm the vent was clear, check. If I had it to do again I would separate the washing machine and make it 2" instead of 1.5". I'm still trying to figure this thing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Congrats to you for taking the time to visualize a scheme; it helps understanding. It's an interesting sketch, albeit one without much practical application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 a word of warning, in 1999 I built an addition with a bathroom, kitchen and laundry room. They are all vented appropriately and have worked fine for years but lately the washing machine drain is causing "glugging" in the kitchen sink. I opened the wall behind the washer to confirm a vent, check. I went on the roof to confirm the vent was clear, check. If I had it to do again I would separate the washing machine and make it 2" instead of 1.5". I'm still trying to figure this thing out. Minimum laundry vent has been 2" for a lot of years. Then, there's the (somewhat antiquated) suds zone consideration. I'd rethink the "vented appropriately" comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Kienitz Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 FWIW ... The City of West Monroe has adopted the Louisiana State Uniform Construction Code. I'm not even going to try and guess what that actually may be and would rather leave the opining on that to Marc !! [] From my perusing of their (City of West Monroe) website and FAQ it does not appear they require a permit for a new home construction. That is assuming that your home is being built "within" the city limits of West Monroe. City of West Monroe, LA ... adopts codes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 From 2012 IRC regarding drainage vent termination clearances. P3103.5 Location of vent terminal. An open vent terminal from a drainage system shall not be located less than 4 feet (1219 mm) directly beneath any door, openable window, or other air intake opening of the building or of an adjacent building, nor shall any such vent terminal be within 10 feet (3048 mm) horizontally of such an opening unless it is not less than 3 feet (914 mm) above the top of such opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephVelder Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 From 2012 IRC regarding drainage vent termination clearances. P3103.5 Location of vent terminal. An open vent terminal from a drainage system shall not be located less than 4 feet (1219 mm) directly beneath any door, openable window, or other air intake opening of the building or of an adjacent building, nor shall any such vent terminal be within 10 feet (3048 mm) horizontally of such an opening unless it is not less than 3 feet (914 mm) above the top of such opening. ....crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 FWIW ... The City of West Monroe has adopted the Louisiana State Uniform Construction Code. I'm not even going to try and guess what that actually may be and would rather leave the opining on that to Marc !! [] From my perusing of their (City of West Monroe) website and FAQ it does not appear they require a permit for a new home construction. That is assuming that your home is being built "within" the city limits of West Monroe. City of West Monroe, LA ... adopts codes . The Louisiana State government decides which laws are going to be adopted within the state but leaves enforcement to the individual cities and parishes. When a city or parish says it's adopting the LA codes, it's really saying that they've finally given in to pressure from the Uniform Construction Code Council and has established a code enforcement authority. The Council has been pushing for cities and parishes everywhere to begin enforcing codes ever since hurricane Katrina did $50 billion in damage in 2006. Like Nolan suggested, West Monroe seems to have some sort of enforcement started but it's very limited and more likely intended to appease Code Council demands. I wouldn't be surprised if Joseph succeeds in getting his house built and able to move in with nary a blink from the City. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephVelder Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised if Joseph succeeds in getting his house built and able to move in with nary a blink from the City. Marc From your typing fingers to God's ears Marc! [:-thumbu] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephVelder Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 ok, now, will this scenario give me enough venting inches per appliance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I'm not familiar with the Standard Plumbing Code. The UPC, however, would not allow the downstair bathroom's double sink to vent into the wet vent that serves as a drain for the toilet, bathtub, and sink above. Too many fixture units. Even if you set the UPC aside, it's a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 The Louisiana State government decides which laws are going to be adopted within the state but leaves enforcement to the individual cities and parishes. When a city or parish says it's adopting the LA codes, it's really saying that they've finally given in to pressure from the Uniform Construction Code Council and has established a code enforcement authority. The Council has been pushing for cities and parishes everywhere to begin enforcing codes ever since hurricane Katrina did $50 billion in damage in 2006. Like Nolan suggested, West Monroe seems to have some sort of enforcement started but it's very limited and more likely intended to appease Code Council demands. I wouldn't be surprised if Joseph succeeds in getting his house built and able to move in with nary a blink from the City. Marc I can't decide whats worse, over regulation or no regulation. Here one needs a permit to replace a roof cover, and in at least one 'historic district' the committee has to approve colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I would put an AAV on the kitchen sink and the bathroom with the double sink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 No one will be inspecting his plumbing. AAVs all around would save him a few bucks on pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Run the double sink vent up to the 3" horizontal run, if you think the wet vent won't fly. I am not a plumber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I am not a plumber. Exactly what I was thinking. None of us are; why the heck are we dinking around giving someone advice on a system design? We inspect installed systems; we're not supposed to be designing them are we? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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