Mark P Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 This is the newest FPE I have ever seen. Home built in 1987. 2 panel - 200 amps each. The cover is different then the older FPE panels I have seen. Also most of the breakers are not the commonly found red breakers. However, ever breaker has a small label stating it is FPE. & UND LAB. INC Listed... There are several FPE GFI breakers which I have never seen and they all triped. There was a FPE warrenty card on the wall also - that I know is worthless, but thought it was interesting. I thought they were well out of business by 1987. I assume this panel / breakers has the same issues as the older FPE panels. When I see these panels I am very clear with my customers about there history and poterntial dangers and strongly recommend they be replaced. Today, I was surprised at how new they were and the underwirtier labels puzzled me too. I told my client I would I do some additional research before making a recomendation. Click to Enlarge 32.03 KB Click to Enlarge 41.23 KB Click to Enlarge 38.58 KB Click to Enlarge 46.68 KB Click to Enlarge 18.44 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Jones Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 My guess is that someone had the left over equipment and subsequently installed it. I would still call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI in AR Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 That's the same "E" type StabLok design that's problematic. Reliance bought at least some rights to produce the same defective designs that FPE made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Hansen Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Reliance acquired FPE in 1979, and shortly afterwards discovered that "improper and deceptive practices" (their words) had been used by FPE to obtain their UL listings. Reliance divested FPE in 1986. The panels in your photo could not have been made after 1986, and could easily have sat for a year or so before going into that house. All FPE breakers had UL stickers, though they were often meaningless because of the cheathing FPE did to obtain them. Mark - look on page 151 of Electrical Inspection of Existing Dwellings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Thank you Doug that is good information and the book is already proving to be very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Found a Stab-lok in a 1986 home last week. It also had a deteriorated SEC which caused corrosion in the panel. Click to Enlarge 42.34 KB Click to Enlarge 36.32 KB Click to Enlarge 47.14 KB Click to Enlarge 38.36 KB Click to Enlarge 54.54 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Morrison Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 I would love the opportunity to sit down with this Douglas Hansen kid. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders and I think that -with the right kind of influence- he could make a meaningful contribution to the home inspection profession. Anyone know if he's for real? Or just an urban legend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Well, I didn't ask to see his license to prove his identification, but I did have dinner one night about a year ago with a guy that looked remarkably like the guy in that Douglas Hansen avatar above. Maybe I should have checked his ID to be sure. Dang, what if it was another identify theft? Oh crap, what do I do now? OT - OF!!! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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