allseason Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Is this a modern drum trap? I have not seen anything like it. Click to Enlarge 32.86 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 I believe it is a bottle trap. I copied this from a plumbing forum, so this is just an interesting point of view: "Inspektor Ludwig 02-13-2010, 03:00 PM One thing to watch out for is when someone says that the product is "compliant". Some products like bottle traps are not allowed by code but then you're always told that if it has the UPC or Iapmo mark then it's approved for use. The methodology just didn't make sense, why would the code forbid something then put their label on it? I took the model number of a bottle trap that a customer wanted to install because it had a upc symbol on it and looked it up on the Iapmo website for the listing. What I've found is that a product that has the listing mark on it has been approved but only some small part of the overall product, for example the bottle trap that clearly had the UPC mark was only approved for they type of material that the trap was made out of, not the style of trap. I called Iapmo to figure this out, the lady said that a bottle trap may have an approved listing for materials but the make and model number for the type of trap may not be approved, which was the case. The bottle trap being sold as a trap was not approved for a trap but the metal that it was made out of was an approved material so the manufacturers of the products put the UPC symbol on them. I've found that there are numerous products that have the UPC symbol that do not have a listing, a falsified listing or an incomplete listing. Alot of products are from China but I've also found products from Kohler and Grohe that don't comply either." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allseason Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 I'm telling them to replace it with a p-trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 No, it's fine. There's a baffle in there; it functions like a P trap. Google "bottle trap"; there's bunches of mfg's. that make them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 No, it's fine. There's a baffle in there; it functions like a P trap. Google "bottle trap"; there's bunches of mfg's. that make them. Yep, I have been seeing them more and more, mostly on sinks that do not have cabinets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 If it's a baffle type trap, it isn't allowed by the Louisiana Plumbing Code (94' Standard Plumbing Code) unless it's made from stainless steel, plastic or other corrosion resistant material. I don't think many states besides Louisiana use this code anymore. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 The one's I've seen have the tailpiece run down into the "bottle" so it's concentric pipes, so to speak; it's not necessarily a baffle, but it's definitely a trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasden Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 It may prevent sewer gases from entering the home but in my humble opinion it doesn't "flush" the drain as a p-trap is supposed to do. I bet they clog fairly easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allseason Posted May 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 It seems that the diameter inside must be awfully small considering the overall size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 There's not much clearance; they probably don't scour/self clean like a standard P trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 You could say it is a unattractive hair-ball collector that needs to be removed with wrenches in order to be cleaned. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 You can unscrew the bottom section by hand to clean it. When you put it back, use some plumber's grease on the threads to make it easy to unscrew next time. If this is in a half bath, it's unlikely to every clog anyway. If it's in a master bath or a kid's bath, either get used to cleaning it or replace it with a p trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Haven't you guys ever been to Europe? They are the norm there. Never had a problem with a sink clogging because of one and never had a problem with odors. Jim is right, want to clear it or get a ring you dropped out of the drain? Just unscrew it, turn it over into a bucket and you've got your ring back. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 It's true. They're actually pretty cool, and easier to open up and clean than a standard P trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasden Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 When I was in France I got to see those cool Turkish toilets. Lean against the wall and poop in a hole in the floor. Oh yeah, no partitions either [:-yuck]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 When I was in France I got to see those cool Turkish toilets. Lean against the wall and poop in a hole in the floor. Oh yeah, no partitions either [:-yuck]. Yeah, In the public crappers, yeah. Private homes, restaurants, hotels, etc., have regular toilets just like we use. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 OK, we're now firmly in the toilet, so lemme tell you about crappers in China.......ummmm, you know, on second thought...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allseason Posted May 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Two sinks in the Master Bath. Glass sinks with no overflow provision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Two sinks in the Master Bath. Glass sinks with no overflow provision. Jim is right, plumber's putty will fix it. And if that's all it needs, how about some Vics Vapo Rub or whatever they got, Vaseline from the medicine cabinet? I have tried timing those glass bowl sinks with the stopper shut, about 60 seconds to fill the bowl to overflowing. [:-party] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlparham Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 When I was in France I got to see those cool Turkish toilets. Lean against the wall and poop in a hole in the floor. Oh yeah, no partitions either [:-yuck]. The International Hilton in Istanbul has toilets that flush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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