Jerry Lozier Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Bubba strikes again Click to Enlarge 29.61 KB Click to Enlarge 50.9 KB Click to Enlarge 37.16 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5055 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 It will work, but may kill the lineman trying to restore power if Bubba doesn't remember to turn off the main. On a similar note, as I am researching adding the generator to my house I saw an adapter made for certain Square D panels that allows something similar to this installation. It is a two pole breaker that goes in the upper right slots of the panel with an adapter that attaches to the dead front that will not allow that breaker and the main to be on at the same time. Maybe Bubba saw that and decided to copy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I can't see if that is a feeder to or a feeder from. I suppose it could be either, depending on what you plug in to that receptacle. [:-party] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Petey Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Unbelievable what you see sometimes. I certainly let the HO know how stupid and dangerous crap like that is, even if they did it themselves. Especially if they did it themselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Lozier Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Unbelievable what you see sometimes. I certainly let the HO know how stupid and dangerous crap like that is, even if they did it themselves. Especially if they did it themselves! Basically what I told the buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Lozier Posted March 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I can't see if that is a feeder to or a feeder from. I suppose it could be either, depending on what you plug in to that receptacle. [:-party] You are correct... however It was setup for a generator to power a several breakers including well. Pigtail was hanging on the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Amaral Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 great photo of a great abuse.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim5055 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Here are the generator interlock kits I found. Thoughts if you find on of these bolted to the dead front of a panel? QO LOAD CENTER GEN INTLK OUTDOOR HIGH AMP Aftermarket Interlock Kits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Here are the generator interlock kits I found. Thoughts if you find on of these bolted to the dead front of a panel? QO LOAD CENTER GEN INTLK OUTDOOR HIGH AMP Aftermarket Interlock Kits I would consider either of those for my own purposes but neither would be legal in my area because: it transfers all loads in the house to the plant; it does not accommodate a power plant of sufficient size to serve all of those loads. If you're interested in a legal solution, you'll need a device that allows you to choose which loads are transferred instead of the whole kit and kaboodle. This was covered in a recent contentious thread involving a new member from Morgan City, LA Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brric Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 NEC 2011 702.4(1) allows the use of those devices with optional standby systems. Loads are selected by the user at the loadcenter. Common sense is required. Regardless, the generator circuit brewers will limit the load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Petey Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 I would consider either of those for my own purposes but neither would be legal in my area because: it transfers all loads in the house to the plant; it does not accommodate a power plant of sufficient size to serve all of those loads. As Brric states, these are not automatic so loads can be selected by the user. They are perfectly legal in most areas. I have seen some areas that will not allow them because they are easily defeated by removing the panel cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 Here are the generator interlock kits I found. Thoughts if you find on of these bolted to the dead front of a panel? QO LOAD CENTER GEN INTLK OUTDOOR HIGH AMP Aftermarket Interlock Kits I would consider either of those for my own purposes but neither would be legal in my area because: it transfers all loads in the house to the plant; it does not accommodate a power plant of sufficient size to serve all of those loads. If you're interested in a legal solution, you'll need a device that allows you to choose which loads are transferred instead of the whole kit and kaboodle. This was covered in a recent contentious thread involving a new member from Morgan City, LA Marc That thread was about automatic transfer switches. In this case, we're talking about a manual transfer switch. There should be no reason why the user shouldn't be able to select the loads in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 The nicest transfer arrangement I have ever come across had all of the circuits that were backed up by the generator in a subpanel. Interlocked breakers selected the power source. Every other transfer switch I have seen had so many pigtails in the service panel that was virtually impossible to reinstall the deadfront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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