Mike Lamb Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Any thoughts as to how to prevent roof water from draining into the neighbor's window? I am thinking that removing the soffit in this area is the only viable choice. Click to Enlarge 61.46 KB Click to Enlarge 53.41 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resqman Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Last I checked there should be at least 5 feet to combustibles on the exterior of a home. Seems the building and roof have crossed the boundary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 How well do they know the neighbors? I'm thinking a dormer with a door would work. Imagine the snow drift that must pile up there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Simon Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Chicago construction = Moronic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I was thinking the vinyl siding house was built against that roof edge, so it would be their problem. But how did they get fastenrs into the siding? And what were the roofers thinking? Not our problem? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Brick house is 1906 and the frame home maybe 20 yrs later. Since the frame home isn't going to move I think removing the soffit in the middle should create about 10-12" of space. Blocking the roof with a alum. curb isn't the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 What about just taking the gutter off? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Simon's got it. Moronic Chicago stuff. I've seen dozens of silly stuff like this, flowing into windows, walls, vent shafts, or whatever. The average Chicago property survey is chock full of transgressions, overhangs, all manner of building parts hanging over other properties, and general idiocy that all gets buried under the banner and approval of Chicago Title. Most people put a deflector in under a course of shingles and shunt it over to one side or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Most people put a deflector in under a course of shingles and shunt it over to one side or the other. Maybe a V-shaped deflector would work instead of the flat one that they are trying to do. "What about just taking the gutter off?" This house has a stone foundation with plenty of dampness and seepage. Gutters will go a long way in keeping the place a little dryer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Hockstein Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 How about a window planter that does not need watering? https://sp2.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608040 ... d=15.1&P=0 [:-dev3][:-eyebrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Maybe a V-shaped deflector would work instead of the flat one that they are trying to do. Probably. A well designed V-shaped deflector would probably work. Still extra stupid, but it would be better than the beer can technology they're currently employing. Hockstein's planter isn't a bad idea either. [:-eyebrow As much as I hate gutters and they're attendant foolishness and maintenance concerns, one pretty much has to have them in the City. I read in the Trib the "average" Chicago house collects somewhere around 127,000 gallons of water every year; not sure if that's the exact number, but it was somewhere well north of 100,000 gallons per year. That's a lot of water to be dumping next to an old stone foundation. Better to collect it and send it somewhere other than the basement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 They must have asked the neighbor for permission to fasten the gutter from their window. [] This kind of goofy stuff isn't exclusive to Chicago. There's plenty of the same type around here. Why bother killing yourself trying dream up something to correct it now? The houses must be close to 100 years old, right? The buyer must have seen it before they made an offer, right? It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 I don't know, yes, and yes. Folks want ideas for repair, so I try to give them an idea. For the most part, it stays like it is and no one cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjr6550 Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 How about a shorter window? Maybe an awning window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBrandon01 Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think you should install a sound gutter around your roof and just Make sure the downspouts, the part of the gutter that runs vertically from the roof gutter to the ground, has extensions so they deposit the water away from the home and slop ground around your home downwards so that will prevent water from collecting immediately around the basement and foundation. Hope that it can help you with your concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think you should install a sound gutter around your roof and just Make sure the downspouts, the part of the gutter that runs vertically from the roof gutter to the ground, has extensions so they deposit the water away from the home and slop ground around your home downwards so that will prevent water from collecting immediately around the basement and foundation. Hope that it can help you with your concern. Sounds pretty simple to me. Why didn't we think of that? Cheap, too. The gutters are already there, and landscaping that foot and a half wide alley, couldn't possibly cost that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Simon Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think you should install a sound gutter around your roof and just Make sure the downspouts, the part of the gutter that runs vertically from the roof gutter to the ground, has extensions so they deposit the water away from the home and slop ground around your home downwards so that will prevent water from collecting immediately around the basement and foundation. Hope that it can help you with your concern. Sounds pretty simple to me. Why didn't we think of that? Cheap, too. The gutters are already there, and landscaping that foot and a half wide alley, couldn't possibly cost that much. Simple? I think not. What about that technical stuff about a downspout being a vertical part of a roof gutter? My head hurts just trying to fathom such. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hey, ease up on the Aussie. He's OK. Gutter won't fit. The eave is smack up against the other house. Diverters and a gutter might work. Honestly, those things are usually such piles of confusion, getting close might be close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjr6550 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I think you should install a sound gutter around your roof and just Make sure the downspouts, the part of the gutter that runs vertically from the roof gutter to the ground, has extensions so they deposit the water away from the home and slop ground around your home downwards so that will prevent water from collecting immediately around the basement and foundation. Hope that it can help you with your concern. Sounds pretty simple to me. Why didn't we think of that? Cheap, too. The gutters are already there, and landscaping that foot and a half wide alley, couldn't possibly cost that much. Simple? I think not. What about that technical stuff about a downspout being a vertical part of a roof gutter? My head hurts just trying to fathom such. . . Sounds like a canned response. Probably a program that searches for keywords and answers with useless irrelevant information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I think you should install a sound gutter around your roof and just Make sure the downspouts, the part of the gutter that runs vertically from the roof gutter to the ground, has extensions so they deposit the water away from the home and slop ground around your home downwards so that will prevent water from collecting immediately around the basement and foundation. Hope that it can help you with your concern. Sounds pretty simple to me. Why didn't we think of that? Cheap, too. The gutters are already there, and landscaping that foot and a half wide alley, couldn't possibly cost that much. Simple? I think not. What about that technical stuff about a downspout being a vertical part of a roof gutter? My head hurts just trying to fathom such. . . Sounds like a canned response. Probably a program that searches for keywords and answers with useless irrelevant information. So how do we know your comment is real? [] Mike suggests cutting the eave back and I concur, or do I concurr? Hey Mark, don't go away. We need to hear about HI in Aus, where the termites build mud skyscrapers just for the heck of it. Are there really 10 or 11 types of termite down under? You see a lot of metal roofs? Do you walk them? Is expansive clay a problem? And shouldn't those downspouts empty into a cistern? Waste not, want not. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Every time I look at this, I think about what this must look like during the winter. Ice and water from the upper roof,(hip?)to the lower, with a gutter to help back it up into a huge ice sculpture. I mean no harm to the new guy, but, c'mon. Take a look at what's there and consider a few things before tossing some lame ass, perfect world advice that's useless to this condition. Both of those places are still standing after 100 years + of Lake Michigan winters. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Probably hired one of those "black hat" SEO companies that promised to get him on page one of Google. Likely doesn't even know this post is here. Doesn't read like an Aussie to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denray Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Would I look better if I had a tie on? P.S. go to my Fb bus page and first topic is a hike eye went on with my wife this last weekend. Don't read anything else cause you'll start kicking my butt over stupid things I've said. https://www.facebook.com/sixriversinspections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier inspector Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Think creatively. Click to Enlarge 76.18 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Would I look better if I had a tie on? P.S. go to my Fb bus page and first topic is a hike eye went on with my wife this last weekend. Don't read anything else cause you'll start kicking my butt over stupid things I've said. https://www.facebook.com/sixriversinspections Nice little hike! Up and down almost 10kvf in 14 hours.....that's an ass kicker. I'm jealous you can do that right in your neighborhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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