Jim Baird Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 New Yorker has every body stirred up in the PNW. This week's letters are all about the story and the debate it sparked. I'm much less worried about getting hung as I am about having to most likely increase my discussion of mold. I am sick and tired of talking about mold. I thought I was sick of mold until the discussions about earthquakes started. Thank you very much New Yorker Magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I found the article to be the sort of thing that might spark a discussion of public safety. What I hear from my friends and family in Portland is they're all sick of it and wish the article never happened. Tamper proof outlets, ionizing smoke alarms, or uneven stair risers? All kinds of discussion and advisement. Earthquake that is absolutely coming at anytime between now and infinity that will decimate entire metro areas? I'm sorry, that's so yesterday, can't we talk about something else? I've read where it's hard to even get locals to consider doing early warnings so maybe elementary school children can seek high ground. The only debate seems to be in the New Yorker. What's that response in humans called? The "it's too big to think about response"? Isn't there a name for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Fatalism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 It ain't too big to think about because there is an escape available - move out. A 10 mile wide meteor striking the earth and ending all civilization is something we have no escape from, so talk about a football game or the grandkids. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I am curious. it is difficult to find exactly what qualifications and license? you have to have in various states. how many states regulate mold, mold inspection, mold remediation, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Illinois Board or Realtors has a "Toxic Mold Disclosure" form that fuels the stupidity. No license yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Fatalism? Maybe fatalism. I thought there was a specific word to describe the mental state of dismissal of unsolvable problems. Marc, no one's moving out. San Francisco blew, the folks couldn't wait to rush back in and rebuild. We know the entirety of of Seattle was buried in a mud wall dozens of feet thick....didn't stop anyone. Hurricanes blow the coasts apart...people can't wait to build again. N' Awlins is underwater...literally. Ain't stopped nothing yet. There's no water in the SW...must be time to build more housing and bring in more people. The New Madrid fault blew the Mississippi River a mile away from where it used to be...people built St. Louis on top of it. New Madrid, we at least know it's a while 'til it blows again. The Ring of Fire, though, we know it could be anytime. It's a weird modern human thing. The Earth isn't in control, we are...or something. Of course, I live in Chicago, the midwest toxic waste dump. At least I know where it is and I can (kind of) avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I am curious. it is difficult to find exactly what qualifications and license? you have to have in various states. how many states regulate mold, mold inspection, mold remediation, etc? Les, I had read somewhere, that only 4 of the 50 states had any regulations. Got nothing to direct you to. I just remember seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I am curious. it is difficult to find exactly what qualifications and license? you have to have in various states. how many states regulate mold, mold inspection, mold remediation, etc? It's a mixed bag, depends on what sort of regulation. Mold Legislation Continues to Sweep the Nation Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspector57 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Texas has licensing for mold guys. But the mold is gold rush was pretty much over here before the licensing kicked in because the legislature changed the laws to let insurance companies drop mold coverage from homeowners policies. When the money dried up, the mold is gold crowd thinned out considerably. This is not to say they are gone, they just don't have deep pocketed folks on the hook to clean something up just because they say it has "toxic" mold. I know a guy who had a client call a year after they moved in wanting him to pay their $30,000 bill for mold clean up because he "missed" the mold inside their a/c ducts. A letter from his lawyer made it go away BUT the machine is still out there convincing people they have a problem that costs a huge amount of money to fix and SOMEBODY else is to blame and needs to pay. Be careful out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Interesting article..... Bolds are mine...... it's a well done piece by attorneys identifying what the real issues are and who tends to benefit.....litigants, mold remediation folks, and anyone else that can drag a buck out of it. The last sentence nails it down AFAIC...... Conclusion The flurry of mold-related legislation belies the absence of scientific and medical evidence that mold exposure can cause a toxic reaction. Nonetheless, the end result, at least in part, may actually prove beneficial to those involved in mold litigation, including potential defendants, experts and attorneys. The guidelines anticipated by California?s Toxic Mold Protection Act, for example, may provide some guidance as to what actions property owners and managers should take when confronted with mold and water intrusion issues at their properties. Remediation contractors hired to develop and implement remediation plans may also benefit from the certainty the awaited standards will provide. Moreover, these guidelines may assist in refining the standard of care as to all potential defendants which, to date, has been vague and undefined as both sides attempt to assess liability in these cases. That said, despite more than 100 attempts at mold-related legislation at the state and federal levels, we still have no standards which govern the assessment, identification and remediation of mold. This leaves all those involved wondering if the monumental efforts by our legislatures will ever actually result in laws by which we must live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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