Martin Lehman Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 I am having a hard time coming up with the correct diagnosis for the hip rafter framing. Suggestions please?? The roof is framed primarily with trussses but for the hips and rafters. Download Attachment: RoofFraming.JPG 6.5 KB Download Attachment: RoofFraming2.jpg 45.02 KB Download Attachment: RoofFraming3.jpg 33.76 KB Download Attachment: RoofFraming4.jpg 58.79 KB Download Attachment: RoofFraming5.jpg 51.24 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Hi Martin, Got some trouble with builders tripping on ecstasy while their working in your parts? OT - OF!!! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cguffin Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 I am having a hard time coming up with the correct diagnosis for the hip rafter framing.Suggestions please?? I am a newbe but I would describe that as a dam cobbled up mess.[:-yuck] Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 That is in company with the worst framing I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bain Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Pretty hilarious. Though not as bad, there's a mass-production company in Kentucky that utilizes a similar style--meaning trusses down the middle and 2" x 6"s laid edge-wise to create the hips on the sides. I showed my ass once, got the city inspection officials involved, explained why it was crappy, actually got the city peeps to back me up, which resulted in the quasi-condemnation of several houses. But . . . big builder generated a ton of paperwork from structural engineers saying the framing was totally okay, and won. I still see the same awful stuff on a regular basis, and keep my big, opinionated mouth shut. But it's hard. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bernhardt Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Yea, I have seen that crap done a number of times. The muni's say its wrong but won't write it up. I write it up but I usually get really nasty calls from the builder. The jack asses all say the same thing. It past at the framing inspection so they don't have to touch it. I have talked to several different jurisdictions and they say its wrong but I don't understand then why they won't write it up for correction. Chris, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenT Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 I would classify and file this under CLUSTERF_ _ KS!.But... with all the "agree, but don't do anything about it" from the building dept.'s, How do you deal with a situation like this? I believe I would write it up anyway. But, if this is "acceptable industry standard" would I be wrong? Would my remarks just be classified as my personal preferance and "FACT" be that it is "ACCEPTABLE" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTx Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 That's pretty common SOP around these parts. Those hip and valley rafters need braced at the peak. As for the reverse angle cuts (as close as I could tell), that's just poor B.S. workmanship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fqp25 Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Poor workmanship is right. It's hard to stick frame when your use to installing manufactured trusses all day long... Joe Blow Builder: "Ah what's a bird's mouth???" I see that around my parts as well. Sometimes I think the only thing holding it all together is the 1/2 inch OSB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Lehman Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Is there an actual code in the IRC or UBC that states hip rafters(like ridge rafters)shall be framed directly opposite each other? Or is this not an issue at the roof hip? Donald, do you have any pics of hip and valley rafters braced at the peak? I dont understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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