Jeff Remas Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Let me know what you think about this. Figure this one out, more than one problem. IRC 2003 applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 One needs a code book to know that's a pile of crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Moore Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Well...without actually delving into my IRC... No way you can add a step on top of those CMUs and maintain an even rise. The step down from the front door would be OK only if the landing was 3ft deep and it doesn't look like it. The plain concrete upper step is different enough (no lip) that it probably breaks the rules for uniformity. Handrail. Oh...and that's some ugly brickwork either side of the entrance...(buried weepholes?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Originally posted by Jeff Remas Let me know what you think about this. Figure this one out, more than one problem. IRC 2003 applies. All those blue letters on the step form a tripping hazard. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Remas Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Rich Moore you are certainly on the ball. They had to jack hammer out the bottom block in order to pour the sidewalk to the correct elevation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_ran Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Originally posted by Jim Katen All those blue letters on the step form a tripping hazard. - Jim Katen, Oregon No..... It has actually been added for extra traction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Jeff, Is the landing 3 feet deep? And yes, that's some awful brickwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Remas Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 No, the landing is less than 3'. There are multiple problems with this situation starting from the design to installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Since that is an exterior door it swings inward, correct? If so, and there is no screen door that swings outward, is there still a requirement for a landing with a minimum of 36" depth? I mention this because I thought the 36" landing rule applied when a door swings out over it. Correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 John, NJ IRC R311.4.3 Landing at doors.- There shall be a floor or landing on each side of each exterior door. Note: There are several exceptions EXCEPT at the 'required exit door' (front door). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Thanks Darren, I must have had the rule confused with "interior" doors and stairways/landing requirements. Here's the full code language on the subject. R311.4.3 Landings at doors. There shall be a floor or landing on each side of each exterior door. The floor or landing at the exterior door shall not be more than 1.5 inches (38 mm) lower than the top of the threshold. The landing shall be permitted to have a slope not to exceed 0.25 unit vertical in 12 units horizontal (2-percent). Exceptions: 1. Where a stairway of two or fewer risers is located on the exterior side of a door, other than the required exit door, a landing is not required for the exterior side of the door provided the door, other than an exterior storm or screen door does not swing over the stairway. 2. The exterior landing at an exterior doorway shall not be more than 7¾ inches (196 mm) below the top of the threshold, provided the door, other than an exterior storm or screen door does not swing over the landing. 3. The height of floors at exterior doors other than the exit door required by Section R311.4.1 shall not be more than 7¾ inches (186 mm) lower than the top of the threshold. The width of each landing shall not be less than the door served. Every landing shall have a minimum dimension of 36 inches (914 mm) measured in the direction of travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronm Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 4 risers needs a handrail. R311.5.6 Handrails. Handrails shall be provided on at least one side of each continuous run of treads or flight with four or more risers. Aaron[:-party] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Hockstein Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Originally posted by Jeff Remas Rich Moore you are certainly on the ball. They had to jack hammer out the bottom block in order to pour the sidewalk to the correct elevation. If I was the owner, I would have left the foundation and made them rebuild the whole thing further away from the house so the landing could be extended to create a safer entry door condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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