John Dirks Jr Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 This is the first time I have run across this arrangement. Is it ok for the gas range to be next to the wall.? It is gypsum drywall. Image Insert: 82.01 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Don't see why not; the wall is gypsum. What do they use for firewalls between a garage and a house? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Originally posted by hausdok Don't see why not; the wall is gypsum. What do they use for firewalls between a garage and a house? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Thanks Mike. Now, lets hope I can remember so I don't ask this same question some other time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghentjr Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Originally posted by hausdok Don't see why not; the wall is gypsum. What do they use for firewalls between a garage and a house? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Except if you put a large pot on either of the left burners on high you will probably start the wall surface burning. I would have called it as poor planning and a potential safety issue. In fact, can you even get a large pot on the left side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fqp25 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I see this arrangement in the condos, and apartments around here. They usually have a steel wall plate on the side wall. I think one manufacturer calls it a "Grease Guard", or "Grease Splash Guard", or something like that. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Originally posted by ghentjr Originally posted by hausdok Don't see why not; the wall is gypsum. What do they use for firewalls between a garage and a house? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Except if you put a large pot on either of the left burners on high you will probably start the wall surface burning. I would have called it as poor planning and a potential safety issue. In fact, can you even get a large pot on the left side? Hi John, I certainly dont disagree that it's poor planning. Be that as it may, it looks like it's not a new home and has been around for a while; so it apparently hasn't been an issue. It's hard to say though by looking at a photo taken from that angle. I've seen quite a few cheap condos in what we call the "low rent district" around here where this arrangement is pretty common. Usually, there's a nasty layer of grease spatter on the wall adjacent to the stove but I've never found one scorched. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I believe that if you search around you'll find a 6 inch requirement. As for gypsum board - it's wrapped with paper. Try to argue with a plaintiff attorney when he hits you with that. I put such proximities in my report and while I don't expect anyone to reconfigure the kitchen as a result, I do advise them to avoid the large pans. It's one of those "it is what it is" situations for the client to be aware of. Image Insert: 140.37 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msteger Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I see the situation in the top photo fairly often, and don't call it out. I often do, however, see wood cabinets hanging down right above heating elements and burners with insufficient space (less than 13") from time to time. Tough to reach around a boiling pot to shut off the power or gas in this situation. I would call out if a wood cabinet were adjacent to the burner, like in the photo above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Originally posted by Eric B I believe that if you search around you'll find a 6 inch requirement. As for gypsum board - it's wrapped with paper. Try to argue with a plaintiff attorney when he hits you with that. My response to the attorney would be, "Have you ever tried to burn a piece of drywall?" then I'd offer to do a demonstration if the judge would recess for an hour or so while I go to get a piece of drywall and a torch. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 That'll be damned inconvenient for the left handed chef[:-bigeyes NKBA guidelines call for 18" landing space on either side of cooking surfaces and 24" clearance to cabinets and/or hoods above. The 6" clearance to combustables is folklore, how do you get 6" between a cooktop and a backsplash on a postform laminate countertop? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Tom, I understand your comment about clearances to the rear and industry standards do not specify much of a distance to the backsplash. But in my experience, heat generated off to the side of the burner is about the same as the heat off the back. Personally I would not say that a 6" clearance is folklore. Image Insert: 20.58 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asihi Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I agree with Eric. There should be a minium amount of clearance in between the range and a combustible surface, but the question is, is drywall a combustible surface? http://www.rumford.com/drywall.html I think I would at least mention it and let them figure it out. Download Attachment: Gas Range Clearances.pdf 30.91 KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 "I think I would at least mention it and let them figure it out. " Tony, I totally agree. I write "Range/cooktop burners in close proximity to combustible side wall/cabinet/backsplash." I discuss it with client and move on. The condition is what it is, they live with it and be aware of it. I also mention about using the larger/wider pans on the burners in question - they're the ones that really deflect the heat into the adjacent surface. I fully agree with Mike about drywall burning but because it's covered with paper ....... I think it boils down to a personal judgment call of the inspector. And just to show that I'm not totally consistent, I don't write up B-vents that are in contact with drywall. I've never seen or heard of that condition causing a problem, even though it's dead wrong. Another judgment call which I think that we can make out of personal conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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