Konrad Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 I'd guess we have maybe 1 in 20 on the houses around here, if that many. Please view the photo and advise. It this acceptable? The tar paper is going to fade and wear out, no? Download Attachment: DCP_0908.JPG 77.99 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 I'd like to see gaps that a Dodge Caravan couldn't pass through, but the interlayment of felt is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 The felt strips should be 18". The bottom edge of the felt should be above the bottom of the shake at twice the exposure. For example, with 24" shakes, felts extend up 14" onto the sheathing. Done correctly, I usually have to use a flashlight to look up under the courses to even see the felts. The spacing between shakes should be between 3/8" and 5/8". Forget the Caravan, my full size Dodge conversion could pass through. The side lap appears to be less than 1 1/2" between joints in adjacent courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTx Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Those are what you call shakes? We call that kindling here [:-jump] Donald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Hi, I agree with Bill, way too much exposure of the felt and not enough offset. This guy needs to go back to school. Around here, that roof would begin leaking at about the 8 to 10 year mark after the felt had completely rotted away. Can't speak to Nebraska. I don't know what your sun/rain conditions are there. Go to the Shake and Shingle Bureau's site and get the correct skinny. You'll find them at http://www.cedarbureau.org. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I have yet to see a cedar shake roof here, but man those are some HUGE gaps. It looks like they were running short and started stringing them out to compensate. [:-boggled] Brian G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobC Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 The roof appears to have been installed while the material was wet with incorrect spacing and inferior, sub standard material. Here is an illustration you may be interested in Download Attachment: WoodShingleNShakes.JPG 373.95 KB The grade goes like this Grade 1 Handsplit Resawn 24" x 1/2" Medium Cedar Shakes. Grade 1 Tapersawn 24" x 3/4" Cear Shakes Grade 1 Handsplit Resawn 24' x 3/4" Heavy Cedar Shakes. Premium Handsplit Resawn 24" x 3/4" Heavy Cedar Shakes. (Add 15% to the first choice) So..........the butt of the shake is a first give away ..1/2" Here the correct installation method, Download Attachment: WoodShakeNail.JPG 275.04 KB Is this acceptable? - NO The tar paper is going to fade and wear out, no? - YES I'd be looking for loose or missing and rotted shingles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusty Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 That roof is a certifiable POS. Recommend further evaluation by a qualified roofer. You are right about the felt. That felt wouldn't last 5 years out here. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted August 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Thanks for verifying what I thought as well. That photo was as bad as it got, the rest of the roof covering wasn't as bad as that. But wait, it gets even BETTER! You will LOVE this photo of the valley dying into the side of the wall... [:-banghead] Download Attachment: Cardwell Roof.JPG 67.61 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I thought you said the first photo was as bad as it got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted August 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 "Indecision may or may not be my problem." ~ Jimmy Buffett [] What I MEANT to say was that the first photo I posed showed the worst of the shake spacing. The spacing everywhere else wasn't as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusty Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by Konrad The spacing everywhere else wasn't as bad. Have you looked at the gap between my 2 front teeth lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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