randynavarro Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Click to Enlarge 36.1 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Whitmore Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Not grounded? Weird. The newer cabinets and newer microwave are throwin' me off. If that's an older home, how did you figure this out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randynavarro Posted August 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Multi-tasking. While grabbing the oven door handle right below the micro., I reached for the micro to run its fan. Then I tested it. Click to Enlarge 47.54 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Whitmore Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Didn't anyone ever tell you that multi- tasking could be dangerous[:-bigeyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Multi-tasking. While grabbing the oven door handle right below the micro., I reached for the micro to run its fan. Then I tested it. Click to Enlarge 47.54 KB How do you know it isn't the oven that's hot? - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randynavarro Posted August 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 I metered both appliances to a ground pin on a nearby counter receptacle. It is the 120 volt that passes from hand to hand thru the heart that can do some serious damage, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 I metered both appliances to a ground pin on a nearby counter receptacle. It is the 120 volt that passes from hand to hand thru the heart that can do some serious damage, right? That's certainly what the rumor says but I don't know. It seems like a very simplistic explanation. BTW, if I walked into the kitchen and saw that sign on the microwave, I think I'd have to touch it. Probably several times, "OW! That really is hot. OWW! Yep, still hot. OOOOWW. Wow, it just stays hot . . . " - Jim Katen, Oregon Download Attachment: the_difference.JPG 35.52 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 As the old saying goes....."it's not the volts, it's the amps that kill you". Not a medical opinion, but that's the saying. Tazer's (the police dept. thingies) hit you with about 10,000 volts, or something like that. Either way, kinda spooky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 I think Randy's on to the next big thing in report writing; stick a giant post it on every defect in the place and photograph it. I like it. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Manor Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 I had the exact same situation in my own home. We found it when my mother in law was visiting. She was washing dishes and touched the steel microwave cabinet - got a pretty good zap. She immediately tried to explain to me what happened, but there is a bit of a language barrier - so she showed me. As far as I could tell, the ground was energized (I live in an old house with no shortage of goofy wiring). Tough old lady got zapped a couple times but still finished the dishes! -Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fqp25 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Did you flip the breaker off? Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 You'll be liable if an immigrant is killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 As the old saying goes....."it's not the volts, it's the amps that kill you". Not a medical opinion, but that's the saying. Tazer's (the police dept. thingies) hit you with about 10,000 volts, or something like that. Either way, kinda spooky. I've been zapped more than once with the coil from a car (back when I knew how to find the engine and the coil - don't ask me how to now). Pretty sure they put out 20k V. Never researched it but I would think static electricity is up around 1000 volts or so??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 You'll be liable if an immigrant is killed. Why? Last I checked this was still the USA. The only place you'll find bilingual signs around here is at Lowes. Now if he was one of the brethren from the Great White North, that'd be different. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 You'll be liable if an immigrant is killed. The only place you'll find bilingual signs around here is at Lowes. Tom And attorneys offices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul N Frey Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Had the same thing happen to me a few years back. Was going over the report with clients with 1 hand on the SS sink and rested my other on the range - granted, my hair is short but I swear it stood straight up. Seems that the "Sears repairman" had recently (as in the day before) replaced one of the controls and didn't quite get the wiring back where it should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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