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Hey Erby, First things first, what about those CATS? For the rest of you out there not from Kentucky, that is a typical greeting for Kentuckians. Well to be honest with you, I think that only became a code requirement in the 2002NEC code cycle. I know for sure it did for switch loops for lights or recepticles were the white wire is used as a hot wire it has to be marked with tape or a marker, some even use heat shrink. Another reason I think it was a homeowner job, common sence says it should have been marked. Good eyes. And I will check the code reference on that. T.

Some manufacturers realize that in some cases you don't have enough spaces for all of the neutrals and grounds and in some cases allow you to put more than one wire under a terminal, but these panels are listed and labeled for that use and will typically say it on the inside door of newer panels. But in this case there are plenty of spaces and would not apply. That extra ground bar may not be listed for that panel either. I fail jobs occasionally on workmanship. Can't stand a sloppy job. I take pride in my trade and think others should too. I have even revoked some so called electricians licenses over sloppy workmanship in the past and hope they take up turd chasen. If their going to do shit work, they should get in the right trade. Just an opinion. T. T.

Hey guys, thought I would give my 2 cents worth. I have seen this type of panel before. The bonding jumper does appear to be installed correctly. Those jumpers are listed components of this type panel. Crappy workmanship IMO. Looks like a homeowner job. Most experienced electricians will twist the nuetrals or the grounds before terminating in the buss bar to insure a good connection. T.

SORRY, but it always seems I have an after thought. Did you check for a water ground or even in older houses a gas pipe ground. You may be getting a ground source from one of these.

Whats up Don? I have some possible explanations for this. Some utility providers here require an attachment to the messanger wire, a separate grouding conductor from the service connection to the meter base. It terminates in the meter base on a lug bonded to the meter base. If you have a bond or metal nipple between your meter and panel box, this would provide a false ground, legal at the time of installation. As far as some of your recepticles not showing ground, some older houses are wired with BX cable or metal jacketed cable, the metal jacket is a grounding path to your recepticles, if some of your recepticle were changed or added with the old two wire romex or nmc cable you could lose your ground to those recepticles. For two wire systems the code allows the use of two prong recepticle or if a three prong receptle is desired change it to a GFCI. Just some ideas. T.

Point well taken, but I would have to see some proof of there loyalty to the cats, like a subscription to THE CATS PAWS OR season tickets. Then it would be a decision for the authority having jurisdiction. T.

One other thing I forgot to mention. I my jurisdiction, a second kithchen is considered a second dwelling unit and brings up zoning issues. It is now considered a two family dwelling, which can open up a hole can of worms, if not zoned correctly. T.

Well let me clear one thing up right off the bat, I bleed Blue. I do cheer for Louisville when they play Indiana or if they ever played PUKE, I meen Duke.lol. As for your question on the sticker, That is deffinently voiding listing and labeling of the equipement. There are several reasons that it could have been missed. I don't make excuses for things that are missed. All I can tell you is there is no such thing as a perfect inspection or a perfect inspector. I would however, depending on how old it is, call the inspector whos name is on the sticker and just tell him whom you are and that you noticed something that he may have missed. I have missed things and appreciate it when someone points it out to me. If it has been a while anything could have happened, such as breakers replaced. We all have to eat crow sometime if you stay in the trade long enough. Just give the inspector a call. Just my opinion. T.

Hello All,[:-magnify I did not see a place for introductions so I hope its ok to put it here. I have about 25yrs experience in the electrical trade. I have been envolved in about every aspect of the electrical trade, form engineering to installation to inspection. I am currently the chief electrical inspector for the largest metropolitan city in the state, I have had this position for about 6yrs now I have been an state certified electrical inspector for about 12yrs, and a state certified biulding inspector for about the same amount of time. I am always looking for different opinions and view points. I hope I don't sound like a braggert or anything I just wanted everyone to know my background. I look forward to getting to know my way around the forum. Also getting some input on different subjects from you as well as offering some input. My department performs about 35000 inspections per year, so you can believe we see some duzies out there. Hopefully I can share some of these with you too. So, I'm happy to be here and I'll shut up now. Thanks, Inspector T