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I guess I will sent a letter to the builder that I intent to file a complain to Oregon CCB Thanks for the advice!

OK I rename the pic, I'll start with the sump pump and how it did help dry the space with no rain for approx 10 days. then I retake pic from today since it started raining this morning. I felt the water enter too easily sump pump : Download Attachment: sumppump2.jpg 68.26 KB the crawl space after 10 days with out rain Download Attachment: feb2020062.jpg 64.68 KB Download Attachment: feb2020064.jpg 56.28 KB here is how it looked today with rain since morning Download Attachment: feb2720061.jpg 49.44 KB Download Attachment: feb2720062.jpg 58.69 KB Download Attachment: feb2720063.jpg 71.46 KB before my crawl space look like this even without rain for extended period of time Download Attachment: wetcrawlspace.jpg 56.7 KB basically it look like this for over 2 months even when there is no rain for at least a week. What my builder try to convince me is the crawl space is better than it was. I'll continue taking picture as there will be rain for the next few day and I will keep you guys posted

RobC, My crawl space was finally drying up after there is no precipitation for at least 10 days. The sump pump slowly takes the water out. Well today it rains here in eugene OR. I checked the crawl space and the water start entering the crawl space again. I called the builder and notify him about this. He get really upset and said "I build the house per code and I did extra by installing the sump pump". "A lot of house in eugene has water during rainy season. and I will not do anything else". So I told him if that's how he feel strongly, I asked him to put in writing that he won't do anything else since he build the house per code. But he would not put in writting. here is the picture of the sump pump. it's placed not necessarily at the lowest point but close to access for easy access. Download Attachment: crawl space 009 (Small).jpg 79.7 KB

Sorry for the large files on the images RobC Yes It appears, I am the only on with the water problem on this subdivision. they are still buidings though. My immediate neigbors which are only 10 feet apart on each side doesnot have problem. one of the even sitting few inches lower than our house Jim Yes our house is the one with stone veneer. I haven't been reading about it. It is a cultured stone manufactured by rouge river in grants pass oregon.

Thanks Rob, Unfortunately we closed on the house already in oct 2005. When, our inspector inspect the crawlspace it was fairly dry except for small amount of standing water towar the back of the crawl space (of course rainy season doesn't start after we moved in). In november when it started rainning, my crawl space had 2.5 inch standing water and it doesn't receded even after period of no rain for 10 days. I felt that the water table is high and the water somehow enter the crawl space very readily. As a background. The house is build on a clay soil not too far from a large pond. the builder compacted 4 inches of gravel below the foundation. I am enclosing the picture of the lot while they are excavating and my house is the same level with the neighbor to the side Download Attachment: Stuman4.jpg 54.9 KB On the next picture you can se how high the house is above the street which really puzzle me why we have water problem and the drain from the crawl space but I believe may not placed at the lowest point in the crawl space because water will accumulate in the crawl space but never any higher that 2.5" because it drain to the street. But I still feel there is a proble if the water enter the crawl space whenever it rain. I know it's not the gutter because the gutter go to the drain around the house the drain to the street. Download Attachment: Stuman5.jpg 64.42 KB Download Attachment: Stuman6.jpg 55.55 KB

Thanks for everyone input, I have several meeting with the builder already and I told him that a perimeter french drain is necessary to prevent the water entry into the crawl space. He said that he did not put any in the subdivision and those system are useless anyway because it gets clogged. ( On prior meeting he told me it's too expensive because we have to tear dowm the patio, driveway and lanscaping and he said he's not paying for it and offered sump pump instead) Everytime I insist on putting the drain he'll come out with different excuse. In our contract there is a statement that state any dispute should brought to arbitration first instead of lawsuit. Is this mean, I can't sue him if he is unwilling to fix the problem? Download Attachment: Stuman3.jpg 51.59 KB

I had a house recently built in OR. The house is located in the flat area. The soil mainly clay with poor percolation and my bet is the water table is also high. When the foundation poure over compacted 4 inches of gravel over clay soil. I notice there is standing water after a rain and it doesn't percolate down. I ask the builder and he said once the footing drain is connected it will not be a problem. However he never installed the perimeter footing drain instead he put a 4 inch tubing thru the base of footing and drain it to the street. Now that we moved in to the house the crawl space has 2-3 inches of standing water that doesn't drain. the water level will never get above 3 inches because any excess water drain tru the footing drain by graivity to the steet ( somehow the drain was placed 3 inches higher than it should be. Even when it hasn't rain for weeks the water doesn't percolate. The builder place a sump pump which are able to take the water away but whenever it rain the crawl space is wet again and it take a while befor the sump pump catch up. I ask the builder that with continues water entry he should have build a perimeter drain but he keeps telling me it's normal to have water as long as it'll drain out eventually. Is it true? I'll try to post some picture when I figure out how Download Attachment: Stuman1.jpg 54.52 KB Download Attachment: Stuman2.jpg 61.02 KB