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  1. Is all foil tape approved for use on vents? If not, is there a way to tell, once it's been installed, if it's ok or not? - Jim Katen There is no way of knowing for sure the 3M tape has no ink labeling on the exposed side as some metal foil tapes do. The biggest concern would be cloth duct tape and foil backed cloth tape, the type that has the visible thread fibers, as the possibility of leading to fire. True metal foil does not burn. If the tape is separating from the vent then the tape adhesive was not designed for the extreme heat of vent systems. Particularly steam systems where vent temperatures run around 500 + degrees.
  2. For sealing ductwork the trend is more to using mastic with a reinforcing mesh tape. The glue on the duct tape ages and degrades where it separates. Check the following article at Home Energy Magazine on the test that Lawrence Berkely National Laboratory did on sealing ductwork. http://homeenergy.org/archive/hem.dis.a ... 80710.html
  3. 3M Company makes a high temperature aluminum foil tape part number 2113NA specifically designed for flue vents. What is not allowed on vent pipes and vent pipe connectors is cloth duct tape.
  4. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 27, 2005 Release #05-162 Heat & Glo Recall Hotline: (800) 215-5152 Heat & Glo Media Contact: (952) 985-0103 CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772 CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908 CPSC, Heat & Glo Announce Recall of Gas Fireplaces WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed. Name of Product: HEAT-N-GLO® Gem 36 and Gem 42 gas fireplaces Units: About 7,800 Manufacturer: Heat & Glo, of Lakeville, Minn. Hazard: Gas in the fireplace can accumulate prior to burner ignition. When ignition takes place, it can cause the glass window to shatter and create a risk of burns or lacerations from broken glass. Incidents/Injuries: Heat & Glo has received 21 reports of shattered glass, including four minor injuries. Description: The recall involves all HEAT-N-GLO r) Gem 36 and Gem 42 direct vent gas fireplaces. The model number is located on the rating plate inside the unit on the base pan in front of the gas control. The rating plate can be accessed by removing the lower grille on the fireplace. This recall also includes Gem 36 fireplaces that recently received a replacement burner assembly. Sold at: Dealers and distributors of Hearth products nationwide sold the fireplace from July 2002 through April 2005 for between $2,380 and $2,700. Manufactured in: United States. Remedy: Consumers should stop using the fireplaces immediately and contact Heat & Glo to make arrangements for a free repair. To be sure that no one uses the fireplace by mistake, consumers should shut off the gas supply to the fireplace by removing the lower grille on the fireplace and turning off the ball valve (red lever) on the gas supply line. Consumer Contact: For assistance in turning off the gas and arranging for a free repair, contact Heat & Glo at (800) 215-5152 between 8 a.m. and 10 p.m. CT Monday through Friday or log on to firm's online registration page at www.gem3642.com or www.heatnglo.com To view this recall online, go to our website at: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml05/05162.html
  5. What manufacturer and model number is this furnace? Lint will block the passages in the burner light over bar and prevent lighting. It will also cause high carbon monoxide levels in the flue. Have not seen a standing pilot system on an inshot burner system. Since this furnace does not have a draft hood there is no place for the pilot burner combustion byproducts to go but inside the furnace compartment, as evidnced by the streaking on the left and right of the cover that has been installed above the pilot burner. Then on call for heat these byproducts will be pulled into the heat exchanger by the inducer. This furnace may have been improperly modified from an intermittent pilot ignition system. Call the authorized local dealer and find out.
  6. If the register is right above the heat exchanger higher temps can be encountered. Normally temperature rise across the furnace is measured where the temperature probe does not have line of sight with the heat exchanger. Normally in a trunk duct 6 - 12 inches from the main plenum. Higher temperatures can also be the result of dirty air conditioning evaporator coils, dirty blower wheel blades, incorrect blower rpm, undersized ductwork both supply and return, oversized furnace for the buildings heat loss. Using high merv furnace filters on furnaces incapable of ever producing the required air flow for the additional air flow restriction of the filter. Overfiring the furnace. On 90+ percent efficiency furnaces dirty secondary heat exchanger coil. I have not encountered but one of my service tech friends had one furnace tripping limit because of a crack in the heat exchanger in the area of the limit.
  7. Allow the air conditioning system to operate a minimum of 15 minutes for taking temperatures. This will be even more important on newer units with higher efficiency ratings.
  8. For those ineterested Northern Illinois ACCA will be having Ellis Prach back to conduct a heat exchanger inspection class Sept. 6 and 7 in the Chicagoland area. http://www.heatexchangerexperts.com/schedule.html If you haven't been to one of these classes Ellis brings about 40 - 50 furnaces and heat exchangers. Lots of different units at just one location.
  9. This looks like a Comfortmaker the areas where the cells crimp to the vestibule panel at the burner area and at the draft hood leak. The folded seams where the two shells are joined together may also leak and if you look up through the draft hood you may find holes rusted through the top of the cell.
  10. I know that the following methods may be a little more intense than those done by Home Inspectors but it is always good to know the information. HEAT EXCHANGER INSPECTION METHODS Did I think up all these methods? No! But I did actively search on heat exchanger inspection methods and the following are methods that I found. For those that want one single never fail method for inspecting heat exchangers. There is none. Think about it. Would you inspect a Pulse heat exchanger the same way as a clamshell heat exchanger , a clamshell heat exchanger the same way as a tubular heat exchanger ? No you wouldn't nor should you. With equipment, knowledge and training you can become more proficient at inspecting heat exchangers. Also check your local building codes. They may list further defects other than the ones listed requiring heat exchanger or equipment replacement. Types of Heat Exchanger Failures 1. Cracks. 2. Rust perforations. 3. Over 50 percent of the heat exchanger wall thickness has rusted away. 4. Leaking heat exchanger seams. 5. Loose or missing screws securing cells. 6. Broken crimped rings 7. Broken or leaking seals or gaskets, including cemented seals. 8. Missing factory welds on seams. 9. Clean out port gaskets missing or leaking. Inspecting Heat Exchangers 1. Flame deviation test. Burner flame moves when the circulator blower comes on. If you do not locate a crack or perforation the heat exchanger seams can be leaking or the metal may have pinholes rusted through. 2. Visual inspection of burner chamber area and exterior of heat exchanger using a flashlight with high candlepower such a rechargeable Mag Lite as at the top. Jet engine mechanics use high candled power lights to inspect turbine blades and illuminate cracks. Flexible lights are good for getting a light right on a suspected area. Having a light almost on the crack will highlight the defect. Flex-A-Light from Sears or the inspection light from SnapOn Tools Stock#: GA481B Sometimes you can even pickup odd looking lights such as this one that uses a rechargeable Makita battery. By shining a light on the outside or the inside of the heat exchanger area and examining the opposite side look for light penetration. Use a variety of mirrors. Small round and oval mirrors that have long telescoping reach are available at most welding supply stores. A large round mirror with long reach is also available through Sears. Large mirrors can be used for drum type heat exchangers. For older heat exchangers have a mirror made at local glass shop 1/4" thick x 1-3/16" width x 24" length. A suitable carrying case can be made from 1-1/4" PVC pipe and fittings. Use a male threaded cap for one end. Install a small piece of foam such as rubatex in both ends. Tool plastic coating can be sprayed on the back side for protection and at one end for a hand grip. 3. Water Spray Test. Remove furnace blower assembly and the fan/ limit to prevent damage to these components. Spray the exterior of the heat exchanger with a water/soap solution 1 gallon water/ 1 tablespoon soap using a garden sprayer. Inspect the interior of heat exchanger with mirror and flashlight observing for evidence of water indicating a crack, rust perforation or crimp leak. Don't eliminate the need to pull and fill a heat exchanger with water. Had to do that once on a brand new secondary heat exchanger to find that it had several leaking rivets causing the pressure switch not to close. 4. Measuring for CO in the plenum. A CO detector cannot tell you if a heat exchanger is good. A CO detector can indicate a heat exchanger is cracked only if all of the following conditions occur simultaneously: a. The flame generates enough CO (lack of oxygen, excess fuel, high temperature). b. Enough exhaust gases are emitted from the heat exchanger crack or perforation. c. The exhaust gases from the crack are not diluted too much before coming in contact with the sensor. A cracked heat exchanger may leak CO in a small stream. You may measure high concentrations only an inch away. d. The heat exchanger is the only possible source for the CO detected. Note: I have not tried this but have heard of some that will spray WD-40 or Gunk penetrating oil into the burner chambers (not the outside) of heat exchangers of furnaces with inshot burners to generate CO to see if CO will leak to the outside of the heat exchanger. 5. Combustion meter measuring undiluted flue gases. One sign of a cracked heat exchanger is a change of oxygen concentration in the flue gases of greater than 1 / 2 % oxygen, or a change in the carbon monoxide level greater than 25 ppm. This change is measured by comparing readings before and after the circulation blower has turned on. For this test to be valid , CO levels must be present in the flue gas. Check Bacharach's site Checking for Cracked Heat Exchangers http://www.bacharach-training.com/Tips/Cracked.htm 6. The American Gas Association developed FURNACE HEAT EXCHANGER LEAKAGE TEST injecting a nitrogen/methane gas mixture into the burner chamber. The heat exchanger outlet of the heat exchanger is plugged and a combustible gas detector is used to check for gas leakage on the exterior of the heat exchanger. A detailed fact sheet on the AGA test procedure is available at http://www.aga.org/pdf/publicinfo/codesstandards/twfacts8612b.pdf Test Products International advertises the J&N Associates H.E.T. Kit and HXG-2 Combustible Gas Detector on their web site which does the above AGA test. http://www.testproductsintl.com/gas.html 7. Magnehelic gauge test. Tape shut burner chamber openings and flue outlet. Connect magnehelic gauge to inducer pressure sensing port. Operate circulator blower. Movement of gauge needle indicates leakage into the heat exchanger either from cracks, rust perforations or leaking seals or gaskets. Photo courtesy of the Baldloonie 8. Vapco H.E.A.T. Spray catalog number HT-1Q. Sprayed into the blower compartment on opposite side of motor. If burner flame changes color there is a leak in the heat exchanger. Vapco http://www.vapcoproducts.com/catalogPDF/P19-outline.pdf 9. Magna Flux dye penetrant test. Using cleaner then penetrant and then cleaner over suspected area developer is then sprayed. Penetrant which has seeped into cracks, perforations or pinholes is pulled out by the developer agent. Full length of crack is seen not just what may be seen without this test. Magna Flux cleaner, developer , red penetrant and zyglo fluoroescent penetrant is available through welding supply stores. It was originally developed by the military and has a mil standard labeled on the cans 9A. A flourescent dye spray and UV light test has been devloped by Visible Defects. The dye is sprayed on the exterior of the heat exchanger. The interior is then checked with the UV light. Picks up cracks, rust holes and faulty seams and welds. They also have a camera system. The lens head diameter is smaller than a dime. http://www.visibledefects.com 10. Smoke Bomb test. Smoke bomb is placed inside burner chamber and lit. Evidence of smoke on the exterior of the heat exchanger indicates leakage. 10A. Smoke puffer test at the burner inlet and watching the smoke if it sprays away from the burner opening you may have a leak in the heat exchanger. 11. Camera systems can gain you access to some narrow openings and the inspection can also be taped for viewing by the home owner or for training. A couple sources for cameras are: The Inspector http://www.shamrockindustries.com/home.html IC Cam http://www.rotobrush.net/IC%20Cam.htm Abatement Technologies http://www.abatement.com/residential/hvac_video.htm Visible Defects http://www.visibledefects.com 12. Optical boroscopes can also get you access to some narrow openings. Yet do not offer the ability to tape the inspected areas. By supergluing a larger mirror to the Testo mirror you can improve the quality of the view. Be sure to properly attach the mirror. The mirror support should be on the side of the head that has the large optical opening. The two smaller openings are the lights. Testoview http://www.testo.com/testoview.htm 13. Pressure Testing - Lennox Pulse Furnaces using kit part number 74K96 available through Lennox. This kit comes with the pressure gauge fixture, plugs, instructions and a furnace wall patch plate.Additional patch plates available in a pakage of 5 using part number 16L98 can be ordered through Lennox. The plugs can also be used to block off standing tees on air conditioning drains so you can use a sludge sucker at the drain end to clear plugs. The carrying case and inlay is something I did on my own to protect the gage assembly as well as provide quick inventory to insure that plugs are not left behind. This case was obtained through Sears. Most failures on the Pulse occur at the solder joints at the condenser (secondary hx) outlet tube. However failures can occur at other areas as the following photo shows. 14. Global Leak Detection Corporation--- LeakChek Hawk pressure test kit. It can record and report using new industry standards in testing procedures as developed by Alberta Mechanical Officials Society . Click on products link. http://www.gldcorp.com/ 15.Here's an old timer's method for oil furnaces. According to the Timken Silent Automatic Oil Burner Serviceman's Guide, 1926 Edition: A serviceman can easily check whether smoke is passing through the heat exchanger due to a crack is to shut off the burner and place a burning piece of TARPAPER in the combustion area. By then placing his nose next to a register if the smell of asphalt is detected in the home then there is probably a defective heat exchanger. 16. Here's a test that is recommended by someone in the land of natural gas, Alberta, Canada. It's called a sulphur test. We bring the unit up to full operating temp. then a small amount of sulphur is placed on a tiny collectors spoon which is fastened to a piece of soft 1/4" copper tubing about 15 and 22" long (I made 2 for different applications) and then inserted into the burner area. I let it burn in each chamber for about 15 seconds, moving it slowly back & forth, side to side. The amount of sulphur should do 3 or 4 chambers.NOTE: if you need additional sulphur, make sure you cool off the spoon in some water, or you'll have one stinky fire on your hands!! And don't lay the hot spoon on a lino floor or something until it cools off. The principle being... if the exchanger is good, the rotten egg smell will be taken out of the home via the chimney, if it has a hole or crack anywhere in it, the smell will be distributed into the living space via the heating ducts, just like CO would be. I still monitor for CO with a digital 4 gas detection unit as an addition back-up, but as you have already heard, there are many conditions that can cause false or no readings at all. The test is very cost effective, quick to perform, and quite reliable. Most HVAC company's around here use it. The sulphur is available at Pharmacy Drug Co. and at some Veterinarian places. It's bright yellow in color, and can be in powder or pellet form. It's called Precipitated Sulphur and sells for ~$15. for a lb. which lasts a long time. Hint: try and be quick if you have to pull the spoon completely out past the heat shield to get it into the next chamber, so you don't smell up the area your working in. It's pretty smelly stuff! Want additional sources for heat exchanger testing and inspecting which include detailed methods and photographs of various heat exchangers showing locations of defects? Check the following. RSES Members check your SAM manual "Residential Gas Furnace Heat Exchanger Testing" Douglas DeWerth, P.E. American Gas Association Laboratories manual number 630-92 9/86. If you want to buy a copy call RSES (800)297-5660 http://www.rses.org Contractor's Advantage http://4youradvantage.com/heatexch.htm Furnace Safety Consultant's http://www.furnacesafetyconsultants.com/pages/710635/index.htm Heat Exchanger Experts http://www.heatexchangerexperts.com Residential Furnace Heat Exchangers BOOK http://www.ahit.com/products/books/heatexchanger.htm or http://www.inspectiondepot.com/Catalog/product_detail.php?PID=84 Gas Appliance Service Training and Consulting, 22 Griffith Drive, Riverside, Rhode Island 02915 phone 401.437.0557 Also a good book source for combustion and carbon monoxide testing "Carbon Monoxide a Clear and Present Danger " http://www.escoinst.com Training Classes Kansas City Building Institute http://www.kansasbuildingscience.com/inspect.htm Heat Exchanger Experts http://www.heatexchangerexperts.com/photos.html Carbon monoxide is not the only thing to be concerned about from furnaces. Check this site about the toxicity of natural gas and other toxins. http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/6847/report1.html#6.0 Bottom line is never stop thinking you may think of a better way to test and inspect heat exchangers.
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