The thread I assume you are referring to, was actually started by Michael O, in his "article" concerning NACHI. It would appear to me that it would be expected there would be a heated debate on both sides of that issue. Does it get personal? Yup, both sides of the issue have been argueing for a long time, with strong opinions on both sides. Mike O, I believe, is not a fan of nachi, so this has played into his hand to promote/validate his opinion. The only org. that I have witnessed being constntly bashed is NACHI. Therefore, I am left to believe that ASHI has no problems, NAHI, AII, etc? All orgs. have their down side, but only one org. seems to take all the heat. ASHI would not be my choice, to political in pushing licensing, which NACHI opposes. Michael O is a "licensing" guy, so it would be of no surprise which org. he favors. Kinda like being a Democrat or Republican. Don't think either side is ever going to win the debate nor win over the opposition. Just as it is in politics.