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Did you miss the part of the post about CSST as part of the LP distribution? Do you know the requirements for bonding NG/LP piping systems when CSST is present? It seems that you're the one that's "NOT CORRECT" - once again. Until the 2009 IRC and 2008 NEC, any gas system, even with CSST gas pipe, was considered 'bonded' providing at least 1 appliance was connected with at least a 20amp circuit with a 12AWG equipment grounding conductor. The following is taken from the 2000 through 2006 IRC and is also stated in the 1999 through 2005 NEC: Only since the 2009 IRC and 2008 NEC has that changed. Under each of these current Code versions, where CSST pipe is used anywhere in the gas pipe system, the gas pipe system must be bonded prior to entering the building and must now be connected to the grounding electrode system from that point either to: -a grounding electrode -the grounding electrode conductor -the service panel But again, since this house was built prior to the above requirements (1999), the gas system piping was/is considered bonded merely by having 1 gas appliance served by a 20 amp circuit. Not my opinion. It is a statement of Code fact.

According to the 2008 NEC (Upon which current NY State Electrical Code is based) the only thing required is for metal water distribution pipe to be bonded in a single location...anywhere on the system. So you are NOT CORRECT in assuming that "there should be bonding jumpers at each of these apparatus..." since none have ever been required. Such a 'bonding jumper' connection is only required when the water service pipe is at least 20ft of metal and therefore used as a grounding electrode....and only when the grounding electrode conductor needs to be connected within 5ft of the metal water pipe's entrance into the building....and there is a detachable water meter between the grounding electrode conductor connection and the metal water pipe entrance to the building. Since the water service pipe is NOT metal and therefore NOT a 'grounding electrode'...only a single bond to the metal water distribution pipe is required....anywhere on the system. If you want to get 'anal' about supplying bonding jumpers at appliances on a metal water distribution system, you can certainly aks for them...but none have ever been required by the NEC....not even at water heaters....and you will having NOTHING to back you up. ----------- You are also NOT CORRECT in "thinking that I should be seeing a bond near the entrance, but at a minimum within the first 6' of copper" gas pipe. Until the 2009 IRC, the entire gas pipe system was considered 'bonded' provided any single gas appliance was connected to the electrical system via at least a 20amp circuit with a 12AWG equipment grounding conductor. If any single gas appliance such as a gas range, gas fireplace, gas water heater, gas furnace, etc... is connected to a 20 amp circuit via 12AWG wiring, then the entire gas supply system is considered 'bonded'. +++++++++++ Everything you are seeing on this inspection is entirely code compliant based on the time of construction, is not 'unsafe', and cannot be made to comply with modern codes. Give it your approval, then walk away.

WRONG! CSST gas pipe is required to be 'bonded' from the gas pipe BEFORE IT ENTERS THE BUILDING to either the: ---Grounding Electrode ---Grounding Electrode Conductor ---Grounding Buss in the Panel Conductive WATER PIPE needs to be BONDED "anywhere" in the metallic water system. If you need "Code" quotes from the Fuel Gas and/or Electric Codes, just ask, and I will gladly supply them....

Before the 2006 International Residential Code, no weather-resistive membrane was required behind most exterior wall covering (siding) materials. If one is not there, and you otherwise have no water infiltration problems, don't worry about it...

Uh, Chad is an AHJ. Good show! But may be "an" AHJ, but Chad is not, nor can he be, his own AHJ or do inspections on his own work. Which brings me back to my original warning! [:-graduat

I am enjoying this conversation a bit too much. If you were my AHJ or electrical inspector I'd direct your attention to the 6 gauge copper rope on the left of the panel. It feeds a sub with two lighting circuits and four bedroom circuits. In addition to the 38 circuits in the panel in the photo, are 8 circuits in a sub panel. I'd take a picture of it so you can sleep tonight but my wife painted the non-compliant cabinet door shut and I don't feel like messing with it this morning. Welcome to the board. If the AFCIs are protecting the required circuits in a subpanel, then there is no complaint from me. I just found it odd not seeing any AFCIs in what is really an extraordinary installation. But thanks for the photos and the welcome. But watch out, I just might be your Electrical Inspector or AHJ! [:-slaphap [:-magnify -------------

"Just the kitchen and bathroom circuits are new. Everything else was wired in 2010." At the very least then, all rewired bedroom circuits in 2010 would have required AFCI protection under the old 2005 (NFPA-70) NEC which was in effect in in NY through December 2010.... So you STILL need to install AFCIs on all your bedroom power, bedroom lighting, bedroom smoke detector and other circuits in your bedrooms to be code compliant.... Sorry.

AFCIs are required for 'new circuits', even if in existing construction. The question is: was only the panel replaced? If so, then no AFCI breakers are required. If the house was rewired, (as it appears to have been) then all 'new circuits' require AFCI protection in compliance with NEC 210.12.

Where are the required AFCI breakers? "210.12 Arc- Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection. (A) Definition: Arc- Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection (AFCI). A device intended to provide protection from the effects of arc faults by recognizing characteristics unique to arcing and by functioning to de-energize the circuit when an arc fault is detected. 2008 National Electrical code NFPA 70 210.12 requires the following areas to have arc fault protection: all 15 and 20 ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling units. - family room - dining rooms - living rooms - parlors - libraries - dens - bedrooms - sunrooms - recreation rooms - closets - hallways - or similar rooms or areas This includes the lights, outlets, and smoke detectors Area that don?t require arc fault protection: - kitchens - bathrooms - outdoors - unfinished basements Basically any area that requires GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupter) do not require arc fault protection. " ---------- The box in the upper right appears to be a transfer switch for a generator.

Dryer vent nearby? If so it's probably lint. Very common with dryer vents that terminate near or on a roof.

Baptistries, by International Building Code definition, are Swimming Pools , not plumbing fixtures. See section 3109 of the IBC: Pool heaters are regulated by electrical/mechanical codes. Drains and supplies are regulated by plumbing codes. Pumps, timers, wiring, bonding, overcurrent protection devices, switches etc... are regulated by electrical codes. At least under the International Plumbing Code, there is no requirement for the shut-off valve for water supplies to necessarily be located within the same room. Check your local commercial code office for applicable codes. What surprises me most about this 4 year old installation is that the baptistry is not handicap accessible [:-bigeyes