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Hi Kurt, Don't know if any of these will help. The top link is the search string, the next three are selected from the results. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=in ... tnG=Search http://www.hardwoodinfo.com/display_article.asp?ID=300 http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwo ... ncrete.htm http://www.woodfloorsonline.com/techtal ... tions.html The builder needs to get a clue. Sure, expansion is a normal response to wood installed over concrete, but that doesn't mean that it's okay to install wood over green concrete. They should have waited at least two months before attempting it and even then they should have taped a sheet of plastic to the slab and waited 24 - 36 hours to see if the underside got wet. If so, and they absolutely had to put the floor down at that point because of scheduling, they should have coated the slab with a sealer such as Sila-Crete (http://www.permacrete.ca/products4.html) and used used Warm-Crete (http://www.permacrete.ca/warmcrete.html) or a similar product to absolutely ensure the floor would stay flat regardless of what the concrete did. Now, when the moisture level in that concrete gradually drops and the floors start to dry out, they'll flatten out a little bit but the homeowner will start to see compression set gaps everywhere and that will upset the owner more than the scalloping. There's absolutely no way to correct compression set. The gaps will be too narrow to hold any wood fillers for very long and those floors are going to be pretty unsightly. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike

By Ellen Rohr The following story is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent. If you think this story is about you...you are probably right. The Martyr and The Intimidatorid="size4"> Leslie is the owner of a roofing company, a business she inherited from her father. Back in the day, her father managed a small crew and operated with handshake-contracts and stacks of cash. Now that her dad has retired, ambitious Leslie sees a different future. She wants to grow her company so that she can make a fortune…and provide career opportunities for her beloved team. And she wants to build on her (and her father’s) reputation for taking great care of her customers. Leslie called me one day, after reading one of my articles. She described the vision she has for her company and her intent to build an empire. In response to my questions, she shared that… She knew how much she had in Accounts Receivables, but only saw financial statements once a year…at tax time. She didn’t understand how the financial statements related to what she did every day…sales, payroll, materials…so she pretty much ignored the reports anyway. She knew that she was in debt…but wasn’t sure how much. She just secured another line of credit to keep the cash flowing. Sigh. I confronted Leslie about her lack of financial literacy. “It’s your company and your assets on the line. You need to KNOW. Tell me who is in charge of the accounting at your company.â€

Thermopride doesn't use a date code. You must call the company for the date. They seem to keep excellent records because every time I've called them with a number they've been able to tell me the date of delivery of the unit. OT - OF!!! M.

To load a .jpg photo, resize it to less than 100 Kb and then rename it without any symbols in the name or spaces. In other words kyles house(downtown) needs to be KylesHouseDowntown or Kyles_House_Downtown or something similar. Then it will load. However, if you are using Firefox or Netscape, you may need to upload it to the upload window and then cut and paste the URL to the photo into your post. I'd still like to do this, but I didn't get a whole lot of input on it as you can see. I'll be happy to pass it off to anyone that wants to tackle it. OT - OF!!! M.

I've seen them like that in plenty of old bungalows here. OT - OF!!! M.

Yes, That one is perfectly fine on my monitor. OT - OF!!! M.

Huh, Kewl! That means that I've learned one hell of a lotta stuff over the past 11 years. Now, if I could just learn to keep my opinions to myself..... OT - OF!!! M.

Hi, Well, I think it makes sense that they should be entitled to splice it when necessary. Sooner or later, every roll of wire runs out and leaves an odd-sized length of cable that's too short for the next application. if they couldn't do that they'd be left with a mountain of cut-offs worth a lot of wasted cash. OT - OF!!! M.

Don't get me started on the price of gasoline. Some lady on the national news (I've forgotten which one.) was blathering the other night about how the price of gas has skyrocketed in recent weeks and is probably going to hit $3.25 a gallon soon. Hell, I'm looking back wistfully at that. Grrrr. [:-banghea

He's not going to see that. When I click over to unicode, it displays the same post correctly. When I switch back to auto-select, western-european, which is what most folks use in North America, it comes up gobbledygook again. I've got a FF browser on my box - just don't ever use it because TIJ displays full-screen in IE. Maybe I'll try and play with it a little bit and figure out how to adjust that. OT - OF!!! M.

Michael, Please check your encoding settings and see what they're set for. I had to take my encoding setting off of auto and change them to unicode in order to be able to read your post fully in English. For virtually everything in this country you'll want it set to 'auto-select.' That way, the computer will automatically adjust to the predominant language on the site. If you don't know how to do it, just go to 'help' on your browser, look up 'encoding' in your index and then follow the instructions. OT - OF!!! M.

Yeah, you're right Bonnie (Of course you are!). I went back and fixed it. I do it all the time but it's not that I don't know which is which. It's that I type pretty fast and sort of unconsciously slam whatever sound comes into my head onto the paper. It's second nature and I usually have to go back through my reports and correct it. I do the same thing with their and they're. I mean to type they're (they are), but I'm typing so fast that I just type what comes naturally and the possessive 'their' is what comes out. For instance, whenever I'm on a roll and mean to say 'ours' I'll often type 'hours'. It's like I've got a screwed up voice recognition program in my head that's attached to my fingers. I think I could learn to stop most of it if I could learn not to type with contractions, but I bet I'd still plug in other synonyms anyway. What's funny is that back in the day I'd sit there typing investigative summaries late at night, when I'd pull a 24 hour watch as duty investigator, get drowsy and nod off at my Underwood, typing whatever came into my head as I dozed off. That'd happen all night long - hour after hour. Sometimes I wouldn't proofread my stuff very carefully and the PM would call me in the next morning and ask me to explain stuff that I'd typed that made absolutely no sense. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! M.

Why would we. Only one is required and they've got it on the side that's got the stairwell, so it prevents anyone going off that side. OT - OF!!! M.

Here's the way I see it. If ASHI insists on extorting money from education providers, by holding back CEU's from its members, then the providers will simply go to the other associations and obtain CEU endorsement for free. ASHI will end up being odd man out, thinking that its done something clever while its members are asking themselves what they're paying dues for if their association is still stuck in a mid-20th century mentality. OT - OF!!! M.

It's: 311.5.3 Stair treads and risers. 311.5.3.3.Profile.[...]Open risers are permitted, provided that the opening between threads does not permit the passage of a 4-inch diameter (102mm) sphere. So, using this metal stair example - there's nothing in there that says the top edge of that upturned lip must be within 4inches of the underside of the thread above - which would place it behind the downturned lip. It specifically refers to the vertical distance between the upturned lip at the back of the lower thread and the downturned lip that forms the nosing on the thread above. These form the "opening." OT - OF!!! M.

It's directed specifically to this: There is no requirement for there to be four inches or less between the bottom of the thread and the top of that upturned lip on a lower step. The requirement is only for four inches between the bottom edge of the turned-down nosing of the upper tread and the top of that upturned lip on the thread below it. It was an epic struggle, and took me only about 5 hours to get to format half decently, but Frank Woeste sent me an article last night about inspecting decks which kind of applies to this topic. Go here: http://www.tijonline.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4655 OT - OF!!! Mike

by Larry Lewis and Frank E. Woeste, Ph.D., P.E. The International Residential Code (IRC) currently provides only limited prescriptive design requirements for decks, prompting many jurisdictions to develop their own set of design criteria and inspection procedures. The purpose of this edition of “Wood Bits?is to assist those who wish to revise their jurisdiction’s deck safety program but whose limited resources inhibit them from researching and developing requirements and inspection procedures specific to local conditions. Note that the selection of cited code sections (from the 2003 edition of the IRC) and associated commentary is not intended to represent an official ICC interpretation, but rather to provide background into practical field issues. Live Loadsid="brown">id="size4"> R301.5 Live load. The minimum uniformly distributed live load shall be as provided in Table R301.5. Table R301.5 of the 2003 IRC requires decks to accommodate a uniformly distributed live load of 40 pounds per square foot. Typical deck ledger to house band joist connections were recently tested at Virginia Tech University and Washington State University, and the results were reported in the December 2005 issue of Building Safety Journal (note: a typographical error in Table 4 was corrected on page 4 of the February 2006 issue). The Southern Pine deck ledger to house band joist connection test data are now part of the Georgia, Indiana and Virginia state residential codes. Table R301.5 requires guardrails and handrails to safely resist a single 200-pound concentrated load applied in any direction at any point along the top of the rail and handrail, respectively. It also requires the rail infill to safely resist a horizontally applied load of 50 pounds on an area equal to 1 square foot. Inspectors often field test the 200-pound concentrated load resistance requirement by how stiff the guardrail “feels?when a relatively low load is applied at the top of the rail. In addition to being potentially dangerous for the person conducting the test, this test is not a reliable predictor of a guardrail’s ability to safely resist 200 pounds of force. For example, a seemingly “stiff?guardrail when loaded to 50 pounds outward force may collapse the next week when loaded by 55 pounds. Consider that in research conducted at Virginia Tech University, not one guardrail post to deck band joist assembly using only ?inch bolts or lag screws successfully passed the test based on the 2.5 safety factor given in the International Building Code (Loferski, J.R. et al: “Strong Rail-Post Connections for Wooden Decks,?Journal of Light Construction, February 2005, pages 65?1). The simplest solution for deck designers andcontractors is to use a single stress-rated and notch-free post that serves as both the deck support column and guardrail post. In many cases, however, the contractor or designer chooses a guardrail post spacing that does not match the spacing of the columns that support the overall deck structure. Highly unsafe deck connections can result, so inspectors should watch for deficient details—especially if the connection of the guardrail post to the deck is hidden by a covering. Stairwaysid="size4">id="brown"> R311.5.1 Width. Stairways shall not be less than 36 inches (914 mm) in clear width at all points above the permitted handrail height and below the required headroom height. [. . .] R311.5.2 Headroom. The minimum headroom in all parts of the stairway shall not be less than 6 feet 8 inches (2036 mm). [. . .] Bear in mind that minimum headroom can be an issue when perimeter stairs turn at a landing to terminate under the deck. R311.5.3.1 Riser height. The maximum riser height shall be 7?inches (196 mm).[. . .]The greatest riser height within any flight of stairs shall not exceed the smallest by more than 3/8 inch (9.5 mm). Poorly cut stringers often exceed the allowable height variance, and stairs that are built prior to patios being poured or landings being built frequently have considerably shorter first risers, which can lead to stumbling or falls when stepping off of the riser after descending the stairs. R311.5.3.2 Tread depth. The minimum tread depth shall be 10 inches (254 mm). [. . .] The greatest tread depth within any flight of stairs shall not exceed the smallest by more than 3/8 inch (9.5 mm). [. . .] R311.5.3.3 Profile. The radius of curvature at the leading edge of the tread shall be not greater than 9/16 inch (14.3 mm). A nosing not less than 3/4 inch (19 mm) but not more than 1?inch (32 mm) shall be provided on stairways with solid risers. The greatest nosing projection shall not exceed the smallest nosing projection by more than 3/8 inch (9.5 mm) between two stories, including the nosing at the level of floors and landings. [. . .] Open risers are permitted, provided that the opening between treads does not permit the passage of a 4-inch diameter (102 mm) sphere. Open risers are common with decks, and the lack of infill is a common code violation. The main purpose of the 4-inch diameter sphere provision is to prevent a small child from crawling through the opening and falling. Entrapment and possible strangulation is also a concern. R311.5.4 Landings for stairways. There shall be a floor or landing at the top and bottom of each stairway. [. . .] The width of each landing shall not be less than the stairway served. Every landing shall have a minimum dimension of 36 inches (944 mm) measured in the direction of travel. Landings are frequently concrete pads placed after the deck and stairs are built. The required 36-inch dimension in the direction of travel is measured from the nose of the lowest tread. R311.5.6 Handrails. Handrails shall be provided on at least one side of each continuous run of treads or flight with four or more risers. R311.5.6.1 Height. Handrail height, measured vertically from the sloped plane adjoining the tread nosing, or finish surface of ramp slope, shall be not less than 34 inches (864 mm) and not more than 38 inches (65 mm). R311.5.6.2 Continuity. Handrails for stairways shall be continuous for the full length of the flight, from a point directly above the top riser of the flight to a point directly above the lowest riser of the flight. Handrail ends shall be returned or shall terminate in newel posts or safety terminals.[. . .] R311.5.6.3 Handrail grip size. All required handrails shall be one of the following types or provide equivalent graspability. 1. Type I. Handrails with a circular cross section shall have an outside diameter of at least 1?inches (32 mm) and not greater than 2 inches (51 mm). If the handrail is not circular it shall have a perimeter dimension of at least 4 inches (102 mm) and not greater than 6?inches (160 mm) with a maximum cross section dimension of 2?inches (57 mm). 2. Type II. Handrails with a perimeter greater than 6?inches (160 mm) shall provide a graspable finger recess area on both sides of the profile. [. . .] The graspability of the typical “handrail?on decks is an important issue: regardless of how they are installed, 2 x 4s and 2 x 6s do not meet the code criteria. It is also critical that handrails for stairs begin and end as prescribed by the code. The nerves in a person’s hand signal his or her mind that stairs have ended when the handrail terminates. If steps remain beyond the handrail, trips and falls are likely. R311.5.7 Illumination. All stairs shall be provided with illumination in accordance with Section R303.6. The type and location of the stair illumination should be specified in the deck plans and inspected accordingly. Guardsid="size4">id="brown"> R312.1 Guards required. Porches, balconies or raised floor surfaces located more than 30 inches (762 mm) above the floor or grade below shall have guards not less than 36 inches (914 mm) in height. Open sides of stairs with a total rise of more than 30 inches (762 mm) above the floor or grade below shall have guards not less than 34 inches (864 mm) in height measured vertically from the nosing of the treads. [. . .] R312.2 Guard opening limitations. Required guards on open sides of stairways, raised floor areas, balconies and porches shall have intermediate rails or ornamental closures which do not allow passage of a sphere 4 inches (102 mm) or more in diameter. Exceptions: 1. The triangular openings formed by the riser, tread and bottom rail of a guard at the open side of a stairway are permitted to be of such a size that a sphere 6 inches (152 mm) cannot pass through. 2. Openings for required guards on the sides of stair treads shall not allow a sphere 43/8 inches (107 mm) to pass through. Lower decks are frequently found to be in violation of railing requirements. Benches are often installed to define the perimeter of a deck when rails are required or built next to the rails. In either case, a bench with a 36-inch back measured from the deck surface and a 19-inch seat is actually a 17-inch barrier. The deck/bench subject is not currently addressed in the IRC and deserves careful study by local jurisdictions. Protection Against Decayid="brown">id="size4"> R319.1 Location required. In areas subject to decay damage as established by Table R301.2(1), the following locations shall require the use of an approved species and grade of lumber, pressure treated [. . .], or decay-resistant heartwood of redwood, black locust, or cedars. [. . .] The operative word above regarding decay-resistant species is “heartwood.?Only the heartwood—the center portion of the log—of redwood, black locust or cedars is decay-resistant. Therefore, when a local jurisdiction establishes the need for protection against decay and a decay-resistant species is offered as a code conforming product, inspectors should verify that deck materials are in fact heartwood. Wood posts, poles, and columns embedded in concrete that is in contact with the ground or exposed to weather must be pressure preservative treated for ground contact. The inspector should verify by inspection of end tags or otherwise that all materials in contact with soil are treated to the ground contact level defined by American Wood Preservers?Association (AWPA)standards. R319.3 Fasteners. Fasteners for pressure preservative and fire-retardant-treated wood shall be of hot-dipped galvanized steel, stainless steel, silicon bronze or copper. Exception:One-half-inch (12.7 mm) diameter or greater steel bolts. Traditionally, the treated wood industry has recommended hot-dipped and stainless steel fasteners and connectors. Even with treatment formulations of alkaline copper quat (ACQ) and copper azole (CA) now available, hot-dipped and stainless steel fasteners and connectors are still strongly recommended. The higher copper contents in the newer formulations increase the likelihood of galvanic corrosion in exterior applications. Also note that we have not found an exception for larger bolts in our survey of fastener manufacturers?literature. Deck fasteners exposed to ocean spray are currently not addressed by the IRC, but pending the findings of a study committee on Virginia code proposal RB122?6/07, we believe common sense dictates that elevated deck fasteners and connectors subject to salt spray be made of stainless steel grade 304 or 316. Protection against Termites id="size4">id="brown"> R320.3.1 Field treatment. Field cut ends,notches and drilled holes of pressure preservatively treated wood shall be retreated in the field in accordance with AWPA M4. IRC Section R320.3.1 establishes the need for protection against termites in areas where damage is probable. AWPA Standard M4 recommends treating any cut, bored, drilled or adzed surfaces of treated wood with a preservative solution. Wood Floor Framingid="size4">id="brown"> R502.8.1 Drilling and notching in sawn lumber. Notches in solid lumber joists, rafters and beams shall not exceed one-sixth of the depth of the member, shall not be longer than one-third of the depth of the member and shall not be located in the middle one-third of the span. Notches at the ends of the member shall not exceed one-fourth the depth of the member.[. . .] The diameter of holes bored or cut into members shall not exceed one-third the depth of the member. Holes shall not be closer than 2 inches (51 mm) to the top or bottom of the member, or to any hole located in the member. Where the member is also notched, the hole shall not be closer than 2 inches (51 mm) to the notch. Many of today’s decks incorporate sinks, lights, cooking appliances and other items that may require the routing of mechanical and electrical lines through structural framing. Due to moisture cycles in the lumber from outdoor exposure, notching may be more detrimental than for the inside “dry case.?Alterations beyond the provisions of R502.8.1 should be evaluated by a design professional and repaired as necessary. R502.2.1 Decks. Where supported by attachment to an exterior wall, decks shall be positively anchored to the primary structure and designed for both vertical and lateral loads as applicable. Such attachment shall not be accomplished be the use of toenails or nails subject to withdrawal. Where positive connection to the primary building structure cannot be verified during inspection, decks shall be self-supporting. For decks with cantilevered framing members, connections to exterior walls or other framing members shall be designed and constructed to resist uplift resulting from the full live load specified in Table R301.5 acting on the cantilevered portion of the deck. Based on our analysis, this code section disallows the use of 2 x 2 ledger strips attached to ledger boards because 2 x 2s tend to rotate under load, thereby subjecting the nails to withdrawal loads. Fastening joists to the ledger with connectors (joist hangers) appears to meet the intent of this provision, but it should be noted that the code requires the design professional to account for “lateral loads?not defined in the code or other literature. In any event, the connectors must be suitable for use with the new lumber pressure treatments. Columnsid="brown"> id="size4"> R407.1 Wood column protection. Wood columns shall be protected against decay as set forth in Section R319. R407.2 Steel column protection. All surfaces (inside and outside) of steel columns shall be given a shop coat of rust-inhibitive paint, except for corrosion-resistant steel and steel treated with coatings to provide corrosion resistance. R407.3 Structural requirements. The columns shall be restrained to prevent lateral displacement at the bottom end. Wood columns shall not be less in nominal size than 4 inches by 4 inches (102 mm by 102 mm) and steel columns shall not be less than 3-inch-diameter (76 mm) standard pipe or approved equivalent. Adequately securing columns or posts can be a challenge in the field when manufactured post connectors are not used. Useful illustrations for restraining columns can be found in the 2003 International Residential Code Commentary Volume 1. In addition, precast concrete footings typically found at building stores do not prevent displacement unless they are secured to the supporting footing. Footings id="size4">id="brown"> R403.1.1 Minimum size. [. . .] The size of footings supporting piers and columns shall be based on the tributary load and allowable soil pressure in accordance with Table R401.4.1. [. . .] R403.1.4 Minimum depth. All footings shall be placed at least 12 inches (305 mm) below the undisturbed ground surface. Where applicable, the depth of footings shall also conform to Sections R403.1.4.1 through R403.1.4.2. IRC Section R403.1.4.1 deals with footings and foundation systems extending below the frost line. In areas where frost line is not an issue, the footing is still required to be a minimum of 12 inches below undisturbed ground. Girders and Beamsid="size4">id="brown"> Per IRC Table R602.3(1), each layer of built-up girders and beams of 2-inch lumber layers must be nailed using 10d nails 32 inches on center at top and bottom and staggered, with two nails at the ends and at each splice. (See Section R319.3 for protection of nails.) The quantity of nails is not a typical problem in thefield, but improper placement of fasteners and unsupported splices are common. Exterior Coveringid="size4">id="brown"> R703.8 Flashing. Approved corrosion-resistive flashing shall be provided in the exterior wall envelope in such a manner as to prevent entry of water into the wall cavity or penetration of water to the building structural framing components. The flashing shall extend to the surface of the exterior wall finish and shall be installed to prevent water from reentering the exterior wall envelope. Approved corrosion-resistant flashings shall be installed [. . . ] where exterior porches, decks or stairs attach to a wall or floor assembly of woodframe construction. As mentioned earlier, changes in the chemical makeup of the preservatives used for pressure preservatively treated wood have increased the likelihood of galvanic corrosion between fasteners, connectors and flashing. It is also worth noting that aluminum has never been recommended for use as flashing by the treated wood industry. That said, the authority having jurisdiction should determine what materials and methods are suitable for flashing the deck connection to the house. For some ideas on deck flashing, see www.fairfaxcounty.gov/decks/, Sheet 7, “Siding and Flashing.? The importance of effective flashing of the deck ledger to house band area cannot be overstated. The integrity of the ledger to house band joist connection comes down to sound wood, and inadequate flashing can also cause interior water damage. The issue of flashing thereby provides strong encouragement for requiring “self-supporting?decks. Summaryid="size4">id="brown"> Residential deck safety is a serious safety issue, and it is hoped that the preceding overview will provide a good starting point for discussions about the appropriate code requirements for a particular jurisdiction. The prescriptive deck design and inspection requirements developed by Fairfax County, Virginia, offer additional insight and direction, and are freely accessible online at www.fairfaxcounty.gov/decks/. #9670; Larry Lewis is President of Homewise, Inc., a residential inspection company based in Alpharetta, Georgia. Frank E. Woeste, Ph.D., P.E., is Professor Emeritus at Virginia Tech University, Blacksburg, and a wood construction and engineering consultant. Editor’s note: TIJ extends a big Thank You to Dr. Woeste and Mr. Lewis for giving us permission to reprint this article. ICC’s open, consensus-based code development process welcomes code change proposals so that all can benefit from the field experiences of peers. For more information, go to ww.iccsafe.org/cs/codes or phone 1-888-ICC-SAFE (422-7233), extension 3381 This article originally appeared in the April 2007 issue of Building Safety Journal and is copyright 2007 by the International Code Council. It is used with permission

Poppycock! It's not a question of being perceived as being afraid of being accused of being too picky, it's a question of using common sense. The 4 inches refers to the opening. If the opening is not more than 4 inches, it makes no difference whether that back lip is 4 or 100 inches from the bottom of the next thread, it's too small for a child to get his/her head through according to all of the experts, so it is not a hazard. This is how inspectorlore gets started. You can't just make up rules because you want to. Do that at home with your own home, but use the established rules when you're inspecting. That's why they exist. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike

Hi, Unless you are a mycologist, microbiologist or an industrial hygienist with a lot of years of experience under your belt, you might want to re-think that. Getting into mold sampling with nothing more than a mold seminar under your belt will generate a lot of money for the labs you use but will increase your own liability substantially. Miss one house and do so in such a way that your insurance company won't cover you and you could lose your own house, and your car, and your wife's jewelry, and the tuition money for your kids' college education, and.... I wouldn't do it, and I think I'm pretty good at this thing we do. I've never had anyone complain that I've missed a mold issue in their home, or been involved in any litigation, of any sort, in more than 11 years in this business. Ask around and see how many mold sampling inspectors can say that. If you do one thing - inspect homes - do it well, and charge appropriately for your services, it's not necessary to add other services and you'll stay less exposed to malicious/frivolous lawsuits. Take it for what it's worth. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike

Hi Everyone, I think Bonnie's payment conundrum has just been solved. Mike Brown and Rose Balden at Devwave have offered to accept credit card payment on behalf of Bonnie and to waive their usual handling fees, so it isn't going to cost her anything to accept credit cards. As soon as Bonnie tells me how she wants it set up, I'm going to create a "students only" forum for her that only those user names who've signed up for and paid for the class will have access to. TIJ is all about education and making better inspectors out of TIJ's members, so we see Bonnie's class as a perfect fit for TIJ. I hope as many of you as possible will participate. Then if it works out, maybe she'll make it a regular gig. Kudos to Devwave. Now, THAT's what being a sponsor is all about. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike

Washington, D.C./May 16th - Release #07-190 The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in cooperation with GE Consumer & Industrial, of Louisville, Ky, today today announced a voluntary recall of about 2.5 million G.E. dishwashers. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed. Name of product: GE Dishwashers. Units: About 2.5 million Manufacturer: GE Consumer & Industrial, of Louisville, Ky Hazard: Liquid rinse-aid can leak from its dispenser onto the dishwasher's internal wiring which can cause an electrical short and overheating, posing a fire hazard to consumers. Incidents/Injuries: GE has received 191 reports of overheated wiring including 56 reports of property damage. There were 12 reports of fires that escaped the dishwasher. Fire damage was limited to the dishwasher or the adjacent area. No injuries have been reported. Description: The recall includes GE built-in dishwashers sold under the following brand names: Eterna, GE, GE Profile, GE Monogram®, Hotpoint®, and Sears-Kenmore. The dishwashers were sold in white, black, almond, bisque and stainless steel. The brand name is printed on the dishwasher's front control panel. Model and serial numbers can be found inside the dishwasher tub on the front left side of the dishwasher. A table of relevant model and serial numbers can be found on CPSC's web site. Sold at: Department and appliance stores from September 1997 through December 2001 for about $400. Manufactured in: The United States Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled dishwashers and contact General Electric for a free repair, a $150 rebate towards the purchase of a new GE dishwasher, or a $300 rebate towards the purchase of a new GE Profile or GE Monogram dishwasher. Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact General Electric toll-free at (877) 607-6395 from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. ET Monday through Saturday. Consumers also can visit the firm's Web site at www.geappliances.com To see this recall on CPSC's web site, including pictures of the recalled product and a table of brands, models, and serial numbers affected by this recall, please go to http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07190.html The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission is charged with protecting the public from unreasonable risks of serious injury or death from more than 15,000 types of consumer products under the agency's jurisdiction. Deaths, injuries and property damage from consumer product incidents cost the nation more than $700 billion annually. The CPSC is committed to protecting consumers and families from products that pose a fire, electrical, chemical, or mechanical hazard or can injure children. The CPSC's work to ensure the safety of consumer products - such as toys, cribs, power tools, cigarette lighters, and household chemicals - contributed significantly to the 30 percent decline in the rate of deaths and injuries associated with consumer products over the past 30 years.

Hi, Bill, you might have it. It might have been an I. It had an 1990 ANSI date on the energy consumption label. I thought, from memory, that the next ANSI date was 1993, so I'd pegged it at 14 to 17 years old. Guess I was in the ballpark. Thanks everyone for you help. Now I can modify my chart for next time. This place is so kewl! OT - OF!!! [] M.

Hi All, Is anyone familiar with how to decode the serial number for an Arco-Aire gas furnace? If so, please post that information here. I had one yesterday. I just checked my chart and noticed that I've never added Arco-Aire brand furnaces to it. I'd like to get that information so I can update the chart. Thanks. Model: GD1050A012AIN Serial: 1925138109 Manufacturer#: GDI 1050AEAIN ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike

Be happy to as soon as Bonnie firms things up a bit. OT - OF!!! M.

Hey! Naturally I'm on board! Where the heck else am I gonna go? I haven't been able to figure out how to unlock the tether anchoring me to this site for 5 years now, so I really don't have any choice. Besides, if it'll help me figure out how to punctuate in English again, it'll be worth it. OT - OF!!! M.