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George, Send the candy, I am in control of the big lug!! Sincerely, Ellen

Anthony, When you walk into a real estate office ask for the Broker. When she comes out tell her she is the most beautiful and thin women you ever saw and offer her a box of chocolates. Then tell her if you werent a faithfully married man she would be first on the list. When we first started Ron was doing the real estate marketing routine. Valentines day (this makes me sick now even writing about it), he dropped off chocolate candy hearts to an office where the smallest realtor was 250lbs. Thank god those days are over!!

Brian, Our house was built in 1951 one of the historic homes in the city!! We had galvanized supply piping in the walls and still have some under the slab (minimal). When we went to remodel the bathroom and kitchen an opened up the pipes, the pipes were all corroded inside/outside looked OK. It is amazing how any drainage occured. A couple of weeks ago we replaced our Orangeburg drain line. It is amazing how any drainage occured through that pipe. There is only two of us and the only hints we got were a clog maybe every six months that we would use a blow-by on. Ellen

We see ductboard seldomly in air return areas under the air handler unit. Fiberglass facing out. We say that the air return can not be adequately cleaned and dust etc will adhere to the fibers. I remember Ron telling me that sometimes there is a sticker or label on the air handler unit for units installed in California regarding the prohibition of using fiberglass. Ellen

Brian how come you didn't tell me about the previous wrong picture. Here is the correct one, sorry. Download Attachment: P1010018.jpg 157.42 KB

Ron, Do you think they screwed up in the code book? Florida Building Code. I copied and pasted.

I was just waiting for you to call me dear, actually. Here are the photos I think. Those were todays photos I was in the wrong stack! Here they are. Download Attachment: P1010023.jpg 147.41 KB Download Attachment: P1010024.jpg 143.71 KB

We like this method of attempting to seal these ducts. Felt paper The red paint is where the power company did an energy audit for isolating leaks. Download Attachment: P1010023.jpg 151.59 KB Download Attachment: P1010023.jpg 151.59 KB

How do you like these exposed nails these were all over the roof? This is what happens when shingles are not nailed properly. The remainder of the shingles are ready to blow. House about a block from the beach. Download Attachment: P1010018.jpg 144.7 KB

Could it be where at one time there was a backflow wash drain connected to there for a old water filter system? As far as the H-clips if they were not there and the roof sheathing was not buckled and no evidence of that on the roof I don't think Ron would have called it out. It's nice to know that nobody has seen this before.

There is a hole in the plumbing vent pipe in the attic space? You guys ever see this, first time for us. It appears that something should be connected, but what? 1960's duplex. Both sides the same. Download Attachment: P1010047.jpg 145.44 KB

Is drywall considered a combustible? I quoted the code reference in the gas water heater thread previously. Thanks, Ellen

George, thank you. I read your reply after I posted. Ellen

Thank you David. Good information I appreciate it. Ellen

Thanks Mike, I will show your response to Ron. We got the drip leg. I don't know if Ron noticed the adapter. The air handler next to the water heater was sucking alot of air, full of dust at the unsealed seams. On another note: The one inch clearance for the B vent to combustibles. Does the ASTM standard consider drywall a combustible? NONCOMBUSTIBLE BUILDING MATERIAL. A material which meets either of the following requirements: 1. Materials which pass the test procedure set forth in ASTM E 136. 2. Materials having a structural base of noncombustible materials as defined in 1, with a surfacing not more than 1/8 inch (3.17 mm) thick which has a flamespread rating not greater than 50 when tested in accordance with ASTM E 84. The term noncombustible does not apply to the flamespread characteristics of interior finish or trim materials. A material shall not be classed as noncombustible which is subject to increase in combustibility or flamespread rating beyond the limits herein established through the effects of age, moisture or

What do you guys report when you see the flame roll out condition? I have enclosed a photo. What conditions are typically attributed to this besides improper venting? As far as gas appliances in our area we don't run into that much. Download Attachment: P1010029.jpg 161.91 KB

I spoke with a contractor today and mentioned the Ruud gas valve shut off 5 feet off the floor and asked him why he thought that was so. He answered, with a corrosive atmosphere the valve may leak and therefor being 5 feet off the floor would keep it at a safer location then near the burn chamber. What do you think? Had one yesterday a 1991 with the same instructions on site, Ruud manufacturer.

Here is the response I got from A.O. Smith. Please refer to the DISCUSSION THREAD section below for a summary of your recent request for assistance from A.O. Smith Water Products Company Technical E-Support. ... [===> To respond:Click reply, then enter your response below this line. <===] [===> Please enter your response above this line <===] If your issue remains unresolved, please update this question here. Subject Question on Gas Heater. DISCUSSION THREAD Response (CHIP) 02/09/2004 05:45 AM Th elocation of the main gas cutoff is primarily a local code issue as it has no affect on the operation of the heater. If I get a response from Ruud I will post it.

You can click on the link. It works

http://www.flowguardgold.com/designInst ... design.pdf This is a good web site for cpvc. It has a water heater hook up section. Do's and Don't section as well. Sorry I could not have the type of link you pres on and your there. I don't know how to do that yet. Ellen

Chris, I'm looking at a ruud 1993 Page 6. I don't have a scanner to copy and paste. A ruud 1997 also page 6. Ruud 1989 page 6. All I have is Ruuds I just realized. I will send a email to the manufacturer to try to get a reason and check out others. Ellen

Nix the last message. I made up my own question. Here is the code for gutters. §1503.4.4 Protection against decay and termites. Condensate lines and roof downspouts shall discharge at least 1 foot (305 mm) away from the structure sidewall, whether by underground piping, tail extensions, or splash blocks. Gutters with downspouts are required on all buildings with eaves of less than 6 inches (152 mm) horizontal projection except for gable end rakes or on a roof above another roof. Irrigation/sprinkler systems and risers for spray heads shall not be installed within 1 foot (305 mm) of the building sidewall. Ellen

The Florida Building code that I know of is a statewide code which I believe municipalities have to go through tons of work to add amendements. The code addresses drainage off the roof. Typically we see a gutter installed between the roof and the screened room. This situation sounds like a no brainer,if water is not draining off the edge of the roofs and running into the home and screened area something definately was not done right. My advise is to hire a home inspector, get everything documented. Visit the neighbors see how theirs is done. This is a code regarding roof drainage. I do not believe that your situation warants a drain, most likely a gutter will do the trick. Of coarse there may be subsequent damage caused by the continual leakage. Good thing it is not rainy season. Roof drainage. Unless roofs are sloped to drain over roof edges, roof drains shall be installed at each low point of the roof. Where required for roof drainage, scuppers shall be placed level with the roof surface in a wall or parapet. The scupper shall be located as determined by the roof slope and contributing roof area.

Thank you everyone for your replies. Mike, you are right standard practice is to install the drip on top of the underlayment. As far as damage occuring from the spike locations, sometimes when the gutters are removed there is some rot around the spike area. We are currently rethinking the writing up of this issue, thanks for you replies. Ellen

Our shealthing here is cut flush with the fascia. All the installators here use gutter spikes. All our home's have a drip edge. It's done like this here more because it's easier,I believe,than cheaper, due to the roof design. Maybe someone from Florida will chime in. Thanks, Ellen