So my friend built this house. His brother was a contractor, perhaps, that he helped a few times built some houses, or a house. I can tell the friend till I'm blue in the face about how it needs to be done and he'll still do it the way that he was taught. It is very insightful as to the mind set of probably most builders. People in general. I can't get my wife to quit leaving the sponge sopping wet in the sink. So I watch and think of all those houses that get flipped, etc. Need to always mention this vent the cathedral ceiling deal.