First of all Mike, don't characterize my posts as attacks on the franchise system in general. That's not what I said and I am offended to be categorized as such by your filibusters. My comments were not designed or intended to make comparisons of methods of entry into the marketplace or condemn any system as a whole. Knowing your sensitivity when it comes to dealing with controversial issues on your board, I strove to portray an objective point of view but my efforts were obviously fruitless, at least where you are concerned. Nor were they intended as a personal attack on your background. It appears that I unintentionally struck a nerve. Sorry, I had no prior knowledge and frankly don't care. You are what you are regardless of where you came from in my book. It was not intentional or judgmental. "I can't agree. I don't think making marketing as the highest priority is a mistake for any business that must rely on distinguishing itself from a large pool of others in order to do business. Without some form of marketing we'd all be toast."id="blue"> id="black">[:-bigeyes DAAAH. Please re-read what I said. The key word to bear in mind is PRIORITY. If we want to split straws and get into a pissing match should I interpret your remark as saying "knowledge, experience and training are not necessary." I will give you the respect due by not even going there. I dunno, I just think that taking pot shots at franchises and big companies is kind of narrow-minded.id="blue"> id="black">I certainly hope you don't think that was the intent of my posts. If so, you need go back and re-read them, impersonally. They are an accurate assessment of the current mean state of affairs of the average franchiser and franchisee today. Not all are bad, and I did not say that. Not all are good either, just like anything else, nearly (there are exceptions), on the face of this earth; but there are inherent shortcomings in the system that need to be addressed if we are to reign these players into the fold. Sticking one's head into the sand and taking stances designed not to offend anyone has never accomplished much in this world. There is a fundamental need to offend those that need to be offended if progress and unity are desired. As we all know, the blood suckers truly exist, and the lowest bottom dwellers in the franchise system can be characterized by noting their blatant exploitation of franchisees promulgated by (again,some, not all) franchisers who are in it for the quick money. They do exist and they run ads that lead unknowing pigeons to believe that they can get rich overnight with no experience necessary. Their systems are inflexible. Their support sucks. Their canned comments have all the appeal and informational content of a comic book dialog. Their reports are more designed not to offend or alarm anyone, especially referral sources, and they are rarely informative or educational, Mostly smoke and mirrors. Frankly these people need cerebral implants containing a conscience before you can even hope to reign them in. I want to be counted as saying... change or die a well deserved and long overdue death! The profession has a lot of other issues to deal with that are a lot more important, such as the need for consistent standards for entry into the profession, education, standards of practice and how to actually perform an inspection. id="blue"> id="black">This is exactly the point of my comments. Chad, I didn't think that judgment of franchises was your point either. I thought it was humorous as well. The thread just kind of drifted there. I wonder why. Maybe there really is an issue hear that bears objective discussion without personalized bashing Mike? If we can reign in the chaotic entry into the profession of those that are unprepared and ill-equipped to do the job properly, and establish consistent standards, I see the profession as eventually being a whole lot more profitable for everyone. That's where we should be addressing our primary concerns and the large players, if willing, can help us to get there more quickly.id="blue"> id="black">Well stated and I couldn't agree more. If you truly desire to accomplish this, and I believe you do, learn to recognize your allies in the cause and quit defending those that deserve to be offended. Sorry Mike, but you struck one of my nerves.