bundling?

[Ken Meyer]

Is this considered bundling? The issue of bundling cables has been discussed here before, does it apply to individual conductors like this? This is inside the main panel.

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[randynavarro]

Those don't look like electrical cables. They look like cable / data cables. Maybe I'm not seeing clearly.

[Brandon Whitmore]

Hi Randy,

It looks like that's in a panel, the sheathing has been removed, and the electrician wrapped the hots and neutrals together.

I'm waiting to see what Jim thinks about the installation.

[Jim Katen]

Is this considered bundling? The issue of bundling cables has been discussed here before, does it apply to individual conductors like this? This is inside the main panel.

If the bundle is shorter than 24" it's not an issue.

310.15(B)(2)(a) blah, blah, blah, where single conductors . . . are stacked or bundled longer than 24" without maintaining spacing and are not installed in raceways, the allowable ampacity or each conducotr shall be reduced as shown in blah, blah, blah."

I can't find any prohibition against stacking or bundling single conductors for a distance of 24" or less.

- Jim Katen, Oregon

[Ken Meyer]

Thanks. I should have explained it better. These are the conductors connecting to the breakers and neutral bar in the main panel.

[randynavarro]

Hi Randy,

It looks like that's in a panel, the sheathing has been removed, and the electrician wrapped the hots and neutrals together.

I'm waiting to see what Jim thinks about the installation.

I see it now. I wasn't "seeing" the scale of the wires to the panel in the pic.