Brian G

Jay, my man, downsize those big honkin' files before posting please. We of the wimpy dial-up can bake a cake waiting for those to load. [:-indifferent] Lord Jim, great link! I printed that puppy to copy for those special situations like Jay has found. I think sometimes people are a bit skeptical that such things really happen and are truly that powerful. [] Brian G.

Worked for me. Brian G.

You're entitled to your opinion sir, and we do have our shortcomings. But we see plenty of sub-standard work done by licensed and unlicensed electricians who obviously have no code book either, or have chosen for economic reasons to ignore it. Neither of us can claim the standard we would like. I don't think the SE cable makes a very good example here. The neutral / ground is still under a jacket until it gets to where it's going, and is only then exposed and twisted together....hardly a bare neutral. As I have recently joined a code organization and have a book on the way, let me suggest for you an English book and some writing classes. Brian G.

Rob, The Unico site is very interesting. They seem to have a very flexible product, lots of options. Their claim of much less humidity rang a bell. That same discussion I ran across before touched on that. One of the contractors named some advance in certain conventional systems which equalled that mark, but I didn't fully follow him (shock). I see they're a corporate partner of the National Trust for Historic Preservation. When I looked into this before it was to gather information to make clients aware of the option if they were considering an older home with no central systems. These are less obtrusive systems if you love the old look, and some houses I've seen have room for nothing else in terms of ducts. Brian G.

Pete, This is the only such company I know about, but I think there are one or two more out there somewhere. www.spacepak.com If you check some of the HVAC websites you can usually find some posts about these things. Brian G.

I just ordered one too, the Extend & Climb. I hate trying to stick a regular ladder in an attic scuttle hole. I paid $192, shipping included...not bad at all. Like Paul I have a 5 foot stepladder and an extension ladder. I also have an articulating ladder left from my burglar bar installation days. It's a little awkward, but sometimes it can get you there when the situation is weird. Brian G. Articulating Telescopic Inspector [:-masked]

While I was spending money today I signed up for the May 22nd Pool & Spa Inspection course at ITA Florida. With my usual cunning and guile I was able to convince the wife to spend a couple of days lounging in Tampa (I'm soooo smooth). We go down on Friday, I'm in class Saturday while the wife and kids are at the beach, we all spend Sunday at Sea World (and possibly an alligator farm), then head home Monday. A little whiz-bang-boom, but it beats nothing. Some supposed hot-shot named Kramer, Crammer, something like that, is teaching the thing. Norm, you heard of this guy? Probably doesn't know any more than I do. [][:-dev3][] Pools aren't a big item here, but it may help with some of the high-end clients and it's continuing ed. Brian G. Another Weapon in the Ole' Bat-Belt [:-batman]

Donald, Your budget guy has some good prices and some sharp designs. Is that a franchise or an independant? They come to you, eh? I wonder how long it would take him to get to Columbus, MS from Conroe. [] Brian G.

Listen to the cornhusker cracking-wise over here. Let's see your ugly mug up by your name, Big Red Machine Man. [:-yuck] At least give me credit for tremendous nerve (showing mine in public). [] Brian G. AKA "Grizzly Goodman"