kurt Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Just so's youse guys know I'm still viable, I now have a SureTest. And, not just any SureTest. Nope. I got me one of the coveted ST-1's, courtesy of Brother Warga. He actually parted w/ one of his inventory. Let's hear a collective "amen". I am forever indebted to this fine man for bringing me out of 3 light tester darkness & into the bosom of intelligent circuit analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by kurt Let's hear a collective "amen". I am forever indebted to this fine man for bringing me out of 3 light tester darkness & into the bosom of intelligent circuit analysis. And the choir began to sing.... [:-yawn][:-angel][:-yawn] Brian G. Heathern in the Darkness [:-devil] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Nice aren't they??? I use mine for the first 1/2 or so of the outlets, if everything is checking good I switch to the 3 light to help speed things up a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisprickett Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Kurt, You're a day late and a dollar short. I went with Hanson's new invention. Checks outlets and does hair perms in one shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul MacLean Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Originally posted by Terence McCann Nice aren't they??? I use mine for the first 1/2 or so of the outlets, if everything is checking good I switch to the 3 light to help speed things up a tad. I work it in reverse. I use the 3-light tester and pull out the SureTest when something's suspicious. I try to check every accessible receptacle in the house, so using the SureTest on all of them would be a burden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbucklin Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 This is not an ad, nor do I have any reason for posting this other than giving you guys/gals a heads up. There is a Suretest ST-1D for sale today on ebay. 2 days left to bid. Starts at $149.99. No bids so far. So here's your chance if your looking for one. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTx Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 The only problem with using the SureTest on some outlets and not all is that you'll miss the false grounds. I'd say we find at least one false ground in new construction about every other day. 99% of the time it's the tag end of the ground wire making contact with the neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randynavarro Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 I know its been discussed ad nauseum in some other forum somewhere, but if you'll allow me to open the can of worms again. . . What is the benefit of the Suretest? Isn't using the tool a bit too 'technically exhaustive'? I tried one for a while and got 'negative' and crazy readings all over the place both on my home and a couple of 'sacrificial lamb' inspections. The tool seemed to present way more confusion than it did diagnosis and clarification. I remember a thread a while back discussing the complications and confusion using a CO Detector. Isn't this the same thing? I'd love to know how a Suretest would benefit my inspection service while helping my clients at the same time - of course the hidden agenda is looking for an excuse to buy another tool!![] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted January 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Well, it does open a small can of worms, but it's one that needs to be opened an little. So, I got myself the SureTest (it only took about 2 years). The primary benefit is finding false grounds. I'm still trying to figure out the voltage drop conundrum. Near as I can tell, just about every circuit has 3-4% vD. I've been finding 5% drop on at least half the outlets I test. At this point, I'm not saying anything until I see at least >10% drop, and then I think about it before I say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTx Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Didn't Michael Leavitt write an article on three light testers? I know about the session at Inspection World 2004, but I also thought he described this in print? Maybe someone here has that article. (if one exist) I do know the 3 light testers will not show a false ground. That alone is enough for me to buy one but I also use mine to check voltage drops. I'm really not sure what functions 4, 5 and 6 are, or what they're good for. Can the electrical gurus's come out and play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Originally posted by Donald Lawson Didn't Michael Leavitt write an article on three light testers? I know about the session at Inspection World 2004, but I also thought he described this in print? Maybe someone here has that article. (if one exist) I do know the 3 light testers will not show a false ground. That alone is enough for me to buy one but I also use mine to check voltage drops. I'm really not sure what functions 4, 5 and 6 are, or what they're good for. Can the electrical gurus's come out and play? He wrote an article titled "Three light testers are big fat liars". Kurt was his "assistant" at the ASHI conference. There were some pictures floating around here too. I think one of them showed Kurt putting a wire close to his mouth (if the old memory isn't failing). I posted a link here, with his permission, sometime ago but I'll be danged if I can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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