RobC

'H' clips have been used here for a really long time. They provide the spacing requirement and edge support. I like to run things downhill, so much cheaper and more reliable. We could beat this thing to death but from my perspective I get the sense that the hole doesn't penetrate the stack itself by the way the light and shadow is reflecting in the hole.[:-smirk]

I stand and bow RC

This is a continuation of my search on this home I did a while back with the mysterious 'Missing Link' furnace. Hopefully, this one is easier to solve. As I walked around the basement in a semi dazed condition over 'the chimney furnace' I came upon a hose connected to the bathroom wall about 24" above floor level and making its way toward the ceiling and dissappearing into the joist cavity. I was standing in front of this wall with the pipe sticking out of it when the caregiver immediately jumped in and said that it belonged to the vented toilet. CHIMNEY FURNACES!!??? [:-boggled] NOW WHAT VENTED TOILET!!? [:-bigeyes2] Sometimes silence is a good thing cause I didn't know what to say. DANG, where have I been all this time, a vented toilet, aren't all toilets vented? After walking around the bathroom, like a kid that just stole a candy bar I investigated his comment and found the following: A perfectly 'normal' looking toilet (no picture, sorry) but when I opened the tank lid I noticed an indentation in the rear of the tank. It was 4" x 8" in size and midway in the back of the tank. It looked as though the tank was manufactured to allow something to happen behind it, like maybe a vent. Has anybody run into this type of toilet before? This inspection is THE most memorable day I've ever had. Here's a picture of the neighbour (sp) a couple of doors down. Download Attachment: Neighbours_Medium.jpg 110.54 KB There is a white naked mannaquin on a horse in the front window. Anybody know a good therapist [:-spin]

As Chad alluded to, the high location of this opening rules out any chance of it being a drain for anything. Water drains downhill generally and I would suspect it wouldn't meet code in the first place. Are we saying that 'H' clips are not required in Florida. What is the edge support requirement in Florida or is there any?

I don't know about Florida only been down there 3-4 times but up here where water freezes it generally runs downhill once it's melted. I know because that's a prequalifying questions for all aspiring plumbers. On a different note and not related to plumbing. Did you notice the absence of 'H' clips? Or is it the angle of the camera that's making them invisible. Is that light I see at the top of the stack where it penetrates the sheathing? Sorry Mike, Your recycling idea is really thousands of years old. The Chinese have been using methane for cooking and various other purposes in exacly the way you've described it. Our sewage treatment plant in Calgary uses methane to generate power and heat. Something to think about.

'Never seen the beat of it' and I don't see this as a future vent connection either. My guess would be that discarded or recycled plumbing materials were used inappropriately as a cost savings measure. Just an idea.

AH! The OLD fellers, they kind of come in handy the odd time..don't they, not that I would know anthing about it mind ya. That's great Thanks Mike

Mike, That's really good information, cause I phoned the number given and it appears to belong to a woman. I've done a yellow page search and no luck. I couldn't find an HAVC contractor in the town. It leads me to believe that it could have been an industrial center at one time. Still searching

Your googling skills are better than mine. Tried that got 0 Thanks.

I reported the data plate information and called it a gravity gas furnace with fan assist located in attic. What I'm researching is the history, and the design aspect of this animal. I wonder how long they were on the market and why are there so few of them. Did the company go out of business? Incidently, I opened the 'awning' inspection hatch at the burners and the inside looked new..honest. It's a puzzle. I thank everyone for your help.

At this point in time, it's anybody's guess as I have not heard ANYONE knowing about this animal. Truly a missing link

I call this the missing link because the way I understand it we had gravity (octopus) furnaces then we moved into the central concept with a fan etc. This furnace is 1954 so it kind of falls in between and with a serial no. of 511 I'd suspect there is a very limited number of them. This is the first for me and I'll tell you I was just like a kid at the zoo. The home was built by a gentleman who died recently at the age of 95 and was in the construction industry. The home was 'pristine' 54 condition. I looked at the woodwork for marks and found very few. The door and windows operated as if they were new, the furniture retro and even the doorbell was original. A memorable inspection indeed. Anyways, I originally pegged it as a gravity and from the basement it would appear that way but more surprise was to follow. The caregiver for the gentleman (an electrical engineer) mentioned that it had a fan in the attic. Sure enough, when I opened the hatch access this is what I found....the fan cabinet wraped in blue SM Board. Download Attachment: FurnaceFan1_S.jpg 58.02 KB This photo is what I found around the corner. Download Attachment: ChimneyDamper_S.jpg 53.81 KB There's one more unusual find that has me equally puzzled. Later RC

I ran into this somewhat unfamilliar item a while back. Has anybody seen this type of furnace in their travels? Ooops, I'll put the photos on a diet next time, sorry. first time [:-banghead] The furnace is called Mortemp Chimney Furnace Serial Number: 511 – Natural Gas-BTU rating 95K TD = 55F This furnace appears to have been built at the same time the brick chimney was built, hence the name. The black control on top right is a fan limit switch and interlocked with the blue box in the second photo. The fan is in a cabinet, located in the attic and unsulated with SM blue board. The return ductwork was buried in the rockwool/vermiculite combo insulation. Download Attachment: MortempChimneyFurn1_S.jpg 250.8 KB

My PolyStinger has been trouble free and dependable for a year now. Haven't dropped it yet........much.

Douglas, I would be interested in knowing more about your tank experience. Here, the Upper North America has not had the pleasure of this new technology. We expected it in June 2003, postponed to Jan 2004 and further push back to June 2004. However, I am quite familiar with the concept as I have been in contact with the distributor of Bradford White and have their literature et. We are awaiting the other manufacturers to introduce their 'secret design' anytime now. Firstly, what brand are you talking about? I understand the Orange Box is selling a self destruct model, I was informed of this and could not believe my ears. Is it really true? AND, what size have you purchased at what price difference.