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Ted, you're reading some really old stuff here. I remember waiting for someone on this thread to recommend tasting the water. That was way back when I was just a lurker.[:-magnify

That's funny Kurt. All the insulation I've talked to doesn't seem to listen either ('course I'm easily ignored). It often talks dirty to me though. Les, can I assume it is from an attorney because it was a rip-off and they want their money back??? The price is unfreakinbelievable.

Happy! Happy! Happy! Puleeeeeeez. They are also one of (likely) many who still link to the old URL for the ASHI standards. The Amerispec link is dead. Just link to the standards. People will assume you're a member. Happy! Happy! Happy!

Welcome Tommy. Don't forget that you always have the option to delete or edit anything you post - so rather than apologizing, you can just make it right.

We've been there. It's the wrong question. The people in this industry are too focused on certification. That's natural, I suppose, since many have entered this line of work by simply becoming "Certified." Hell, some are lame enough to be "Certified Masters!" The word, certified, can be replaced by one of the following phrases: 1.) "I have no scruples or skills so I hope the purchase of this logo convinces you that I am a qualified _______________." 2.) "I have put in a modicum of work to be minimally qualified to ___________." Native intelligence, education and experience are all that matter. Because of certification, most in this line of work have very little of each. We all know this - just thought I'd write it down. Pro-Lab is to mold as (a popular HI organization) is to home inspection.

You will have to answer that one for yourself and your company. There are many opinions, but opinions are often emotional and not sound. I think I understand your point. You want to indicate that mold is not some mysterious boogieman that you're afraid to approach, but at the same time you don't want to claim to be an expert. The CDC link is certainly safe for informational purposes. The real question you need to answer is: What do I want to accomplish? Perhaps you want to establish your site as the place for buyers/sellers to go for all of their concerns. Such a goal takes years of hard research to establish - see Daniel Friedman's site. If your goal is less ambitious, then ask yourself what risks there are in adding a mold link. Might someone go to that link and then hire another - less competent - inspector who took a weekend mold course? Might they quiz you on information they find at that link to see just how concerned you are? If you answer their detailed questions, are you then offering yourself as an expert (legal concerns)? Nobody can answer that but you. On my site (long gone), information was provided only for things I was truly qualified to do. I offered my credentials and qualifications to prove competence. Mold was not on that list, although emails with Friedman made me feel it should be. If I were as qualified as he, I wouldn't hesitate to say I am a mold expert - because it's true! Until then, I wouldn't mention mold. You may want to consider becoming an expert in moisture intrusion. That is very relevant to home inspection and accomplishes the goal of mold prevention. With that under your belt, then you could provide a link to the CDC site showing what your skills can help prevent. Good luck with whatever you decide!

Eric nailed it! Dave is right as well but once things pick back up, the HI schools will push it all over again.

It's too bad that people need to have that explained. They should be able to figure it out for themselves.

In today's world, it is best to stick with quality tags, moderate in number. It used to be good to put every combination of words that might possibly appear in a search, but search engines continually evolve and currently use a more dynamic model [text of the actual page, quality links to the page (not the NACHI type), history of the page, and lack of tricks.]

Jim, I just looked at 404 to see the definitions. I thought the definitions were for "General use switches" and "Snap switches". I see that the latter is "General use snap switches." I sit corrected and thank you for the education. And I agree with your comment about making sense of the application of the rule as well. You are amazing.

Given the weakness of the markings, I would never assume the electrician/DIYer installed it correctly. The marking would mean nothing to me. I want to see my tester flash when the switch is on and then stop once the switch is flipped. That way I know my tester works and the switch is off. It is possible for the markings to do more harm in this case than good.

Yep, that would be a mistake. All you know is that there is a problem. The reason should not be assumed either way.

I didn't say there is no leak - just that it is possible. Many owners keep a door open while the water heats up, they step out onto the floor and grab a towel, and yes enough water can drip off to cause a problem. And the owners don't really care because after all the floor is tile. The air in the bathroom is also damp which keeps the water from evaporating. It's too bad you can't see the floor from a basement.(?)

That would be a very weak argument in court. This whole subject seems ridiculous. I looked around my recently built home and found that the switches are labeled correctly according to the rule. BUT I had to bend over and look very closely to see the small raised lettering underneath the switch to see the word "on". The typical user is never going to see the word/symbol that is stamped there. It's a well-intended rule without effective implementation.

There probably is no leak. The owners probably towel off over the tile. The water naturally flows to the wood carpet strip. That is a setup for failure. Carpet is not a suitable bathroom surface in my opinion. The male splashings around the toilet can not be vacuumed. It also invites mold and germ collection in general.

I was gonna say that's BS, but I'll just say I never heard of such a thing. Could be true, I suppose. I also followed your link and for the life of me I cannot see any reason for "off" to appear on that switch!

I like Bill's approach, but your page has to load in order for the script to run. Why don't you want it to load? Did you go to the site I linked above? It explains the redirects pretty well.

Works for me.

Hi Russell, welcome. I was going to suggest the links that Mike provided in the initial post to this thread, but I see that those links are no longer active. Perhaps someone remembers what they contained? What sort of home inspection training do you get in the UK? (I would not mind living in New Zealand.)

I have kids, so I already know that. But thanks.

They run on smoke. As soon as you let the smoke out, they stop working.

Oh, it's a style.[] Hope the post's real meaning wasn't lost.

You want the 301, but go here to get a better understanding.

Neither statement has anything to do with this thread. Insight, good. Incite, bad. You appear to have the meanings reversed.id="blue"> Why don't you ask them? Also, you may want to have the shift key on your computer checked - it appears to Capitalize certain Words for no Good reason. See - that's incite. It does no good and was included for illustrative purposes only.id="blue">

Les, are you smoking that stuff again? You provide all the mechanical work - not the PC (aside from cooling fans). When you invoke the refresh process, the ones and zeros that make up the software in your RAM cause a signal to go out over your ethernet (wired or wireless) connection. This signal requests that the Internet to which you are already connected do the same thing it did when you first went to the page you are on - load it. And if you want to know exactly what it loads, then click View -> Source (up there on that bar that has File Edit View Favorites Tools and so on.) The software that makes up your browser knows what to do with that information - at least most browsers do. I never (practically) use the refresh button for TIJ because the authors of this site were smart enough to supply that little window that asks me how often I want it to automatically refresh.