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You guys will love this (NOT!!):

101-year old bungalow. The guy that lived there wanted a playroom for the kids and he wanted a sauna but there was nowhere to put them...except up in the attic (??!!!)

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I suppose if you feel a little light-headed when you step out of this sauna that it would be a good idea to sit down and drink some fluids and get your senses back before attempting to climb back down this ladder.

Steep roof. Just about wore me out getting up there and moving along that ridge. I'm not getting any younger.

ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!!

Mike

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I do like it, though the play room could use some gaurd rails.

Around here the sauna would be superfluous. The attic would excede the sauna temps for at least half the year.

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Anytime I see a ships ladder, I'm inclined to like the work.

The only thing I'd change if it was mine would be a simple guardrail to prevent the ass end over teacup fall off the ledge.

I kinda think if folks want to do something like this, let 'em do it. If someone wants to buy it, advise them of the obvious safety risks, and let 'em buy it.

Anyone's ever lived on a boat confronts stuff much more dangerous than this. You live in it, you become attuned to the conditions.

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I can accept a ladder with high handles, because you descend facing in the way you went up.

No way I can accept that ridiculous staircase. Even hanging onto the handrail, facing out, you can spin around and loose it.

It should be replaced with a ladder, IMO.

Ask any Swede. The sauna is a little hut in the back yard, not in the house and certainly not up there.

Maybe it's a copout, Mike, and this has been discussed before, but I will not crawl a 12 in 12 pitch roof. What did you see up there?

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Current code/interpretation here permits a ladder or other similar access to a space not larger than 100 square feet. A customer of mine has a tower with a non-conforming spiral stair to the second floor and a ladder to the third floor. Live there long enough and you will take some kind of fall. I did a month or so of work there last summer, got in shape, and sharpened up my reflexes.

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...............got in shape, and sharpened up my reflexes.

There's an element of personal responsibility in there that's important.

In China, there's all sorts of breathtakingly beautiful landscaping bridges lacking guardrails, sculpted walks, or other features that could never happen here because some mope would wander off the bridge and sue the park service for 180 billion, and win.

When I asked locals about it, and indicated that these things could never happen in America, they were all perplexed and wondered why folks didn't pay more attention to their surroundings.

I'm not proposing public buildings navigated by horizontal ladders and rope swings, but...........

Being mindful of one's environment isn't enhanced by constant enforcement of conditions that take all intuitive and reflexive response to the environment out of the equation.

In my perfect house, I'd have a fireman's pole from my BR to the kitchen, and a zip line from the 2nd fl. window to my garage roof.

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Maybe it's a copout, Mike, and this has been discussed before, but I will not crawl a 12 in 12 pitch roof. What did you see up there?

I should have taken photos of the 270°view I had from that roof, the Olympics, the Cascades and Mt. Rainier all at the same time. Too bad he couldn't get the view from the house.

What did I see? Sometimes one sees more, sometimes less. In this case, a little bit of damage done by some numbnuts who doesn't know how to stand on a roof, a chimneystack that's taking on water because it doesn't have a proper crown, some debris, some moss/algae, and some trees abrading the edges of the roof. All pretty educational for a homeowner that had no idea what the consequences of some things done and not done on a roof can be.

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ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!!

Mike

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Originally posted by David Meiland

In my perfect house, I'd have a fireman's pole from my BR to the kitchen, and a zip line from the 2nd fl. window to my garage roof.

Hi Kurt,

I actually like ship's ladders. What I took issue with here was the location of these. Look at the dearth of vents in picture #6 in the second set of photos.

Tear off 3-4 decades of comp and a cedar shingle deck, slap a plywood deck on top and then shove a bunch of fiberglass tightly against the underside of a roof and then a bunch of drywall, without a means to dry out of the roof plane and what might you eventually get?

ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!!

Mike

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Oh, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong. I'm sure there is. A 2nd fl. sauna is kinda stupid; it should be outside, etc., etc.,

And, you know I'm a roof climber. There's lots of times I go up on roofs I know are new just so I can find stuff like you found; chimney and flashing issues, crowns and caps, vents, and Lord knows what else.

Getting on roofs is it's own reward. I'll never understand folks that don't do it.

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Jeez,

I almost forgot. The house next door was a classic remuddler's dream.

A small simple bungalow, 93 years old and less than 900 sf with a massive carbuncle of a contemporary addition cobbled onto the back.

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Mike

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