Jim Katen Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 I see few hydronic heating systems and even fewer steam systems so my knowledge is quite thin in those areas. In this condo (2nd floor of a 5-story high rise) I only had access to the interior of the unit. I couldn't see the boiler or any of the piping except for the two pipes in each corner of the room next to these radiators. What am I looking at? My first guess was a two-pipe steam system. The unit interior was unbearably hot. At the larger radiator, the valve was turned all the way in the clockwise direction, which I take to be the closed position, but the radiator was still too hot to touch. When I turned the valve counter clockwise, I heard what sounded like water rushing into the radiator. What kind of heating system is this? Is the valve malfunctioning or are you supposed to control the temperature in this unit by opening the windows in winter? Any other useful observations? Thanks, Click to Enlarge 27.49 KB Click to Enlarge 32.38 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummen Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Thats a 2 pipe system,supply and return line . Normally closing that valve should isolate it from system unless valve doesnt close all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 I have seen similar rads used for hot water systems. Maybe the tenants on the 1st floor have their heat cranked. Maybe you don't like warm stuffy rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 I have seen similar rads used for hot water systems. Maybe the tenants on the 1st floor have their heat cranked. Maybe you don't like warm stuffy rooms. Maybe it's just the hot flashes . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Thats a 2 pipe system,supply and return line . Normally closing that valve should isolate it from system unless valve doesnt close all the way. Could it have been converted to hot water? If steam, is it normal to get a rushing water sound when the valve is opened? Heck, would that be normal if it were a hot water system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummen Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 I have seen similar rads used for hot water systems. Maybe the tenants on the 1st floor have their heat cranked. Maybe you don't like warm stuffy rooms. Yes a cast iron radiator doesnt really care whats being circulated through it.Steam comes in one side condensation out the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted December 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Oh yes, one other observation: the heating system was making clanking and banging sounds throughout the lobby, the hallways and in the unit. The sounds were so typical of other steam systems that I've seen, that I just assumed that it was a steam system until I heard the rushing water sound in the radiator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummen Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Clanging /banging can happen in either type of system depending on hows its been maintained. Ive opened valves to steam boilers to service them only to be greeted by stuff ill just refer to as mud! [:-slaphap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kibbel Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 It's no doubt a 2-pipe steam system. Your photos show steam traps at the bottom left of each radiator. These traps would have had to have been removed to operate as a circulating hot water system. Central heat in old apartment buildings was typically sized to allow for many tenants' windows to be open. So yes - that is how temperature is individually controlled at the units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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