inspectorwill Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 So I keep reading the label on this Viking stove and still not getting it. Home was a quick flip and just a ton of installation defects of all sorts. This question pertains to the height of the countertop in relation to the range burner. Under the stone countertop is 3/4" plywood right next to the burners. Opinions please. Photos attached. Click to Enlarge 55.61 KB Click to Enlarge 48.3 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 It's wrong and it's stupid. I don't care what the label says. It's Very likely the edge you see closest to the countertop, was supposed to be over, and in contact with it. The end of the top is exposed to grease, flame, and it just looks like ass. Now they'll need to adjust the legs and caulk [] the sides, or if it's a drop in, put the piece of the cabinet they butchered back in. Ps. Who the hell would put the money into a Viking for a flip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Whitmore Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Depends on where the manufacturer determines their "cooking surface" is located... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Meiland Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 At the very least, that cast iron grille is part of the cooking surface--the entire casting, not just the top of it--and it needs to be fully above anything flammable. If you stick a scrap of 2x4 under each leg, you'll be good, otherwise it's too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 Label says that for areas above the cooking surface, 6" of clearance to all combustible materials on each side of the appliance is needed. You have zero clearance to that substrate. That's how I read it. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 I do not see a problem with it. As Marc said, the label has Zero clearance and that is what you have on the side. However I would comment on the unfinished countertop edge and the exposed raw wood; exposed raw wood is a no no with kitchen countertops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 I do not see a problem with it. As Marc said, the label has Zero clearance and that is what you have on the side. However I would comment on the unfinished countertop edge and the exposed raw wood; exposed raw wood is a no no with kitchen countertops. Scott, what I was trying to say is that the label specifies 6" of clearance. The combustible substrate is in direct contact with the stove and protrudes above the cooking surface so the 6" specification is not met. I'd be recommending that the appliance be elevated slightly to clear the top of the counter top. Gotta work on my clarity a little more. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 I do not see a problem with it. As Marc said, the label has Zero clearance and that is what you have on the side. However I would comment on the unfinished countertop edge and the exposed raw wood; exposed raw wood is a no no with kitchen countertops. Scott, what I was trying to say is that the label specifies 6" of clearance. The combustible substrate is in direct contact with the stove and protrudes above the cooking surface so the 6" specification is not met. I'd be recommending that the appliance be elevated slightly to clear the top of the counter top. Gotta work on my clarity a little more. Marc Above would be above the cook top not to the sides of the cook top.. I see what you are talking about but if you have a Zero side clearance and then it says Six inches above then those are two different things.. Read the next line it defines it more... I think it is OK outside of the exposed raw wood on the sides. I have a Wolf brand stove in my home and it is very similar. It will have adjustable legs that will allow the stove to be elevated up about 2-3 inches if needed. As Marc said this would be an improvement, if this bothers you. But I would still have that edge taken care of.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 I see what you're getting at and I respectfully disagree. The heading "ABOVE COOKING SURFACE" pertains to surfaces above the plane represented by the cooking surface. The clearance specs immediately below that heading pertain to "adjacent combustible construction" in a horizontal direction from all sides of the appliance. Vertical clearances above the cooking surfaces are specified separately further down. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 I see what you're getting at and I respectfully disagree. The heading "ABOVE COOKING SURFACE" pertains to surfaces above the plane represented by the cooking surface. The clearance specs immediately below that heading pertain to "adjacent combustible construction" in a horizontal direction from all sides of the appliance. Vertical clearances above the cooking surfaces are specified separately further down. Marc That is exactly what it means. The plywood is bridging to support the weight of the top. That tells me, it's either stone or solid surface. I'm not sure what anyone might use to cap the edge of that top to keep it from being damaged by heat. Would anyone here call it ok if it were a laminate top with plastic edge banding to protect it? It's an unprofessional install, at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejager Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 I read: 'TOP GRATE - 3/8" ABOVE COUNTERTOP' ....couldn't figure it out so went to the Viking site: http://www.vikingrange.com/MEDIA_Custom ... F20543.pdf ? This range may be installed directly adjacent to existing 36? (91.4 cm) high base cabinets. IMPORTANT: The side trim MUST be 3/8? (.95 cm) above the adjacent base cabinet countertop. This can be accomplished by raising the unit using the adjustment spindles on the legs They also sell optional trim peices... http://www.vikingrange.com/MEDIA_Custom ... _F1226.pdf Hope that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Amaral Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 That exposed-wood 'sees' (too closely) the radiant heat from the flame, grate and pot/kettle/pan on it. Not cool (actually... ) There has to be some sort of radiant heat shield of some kind.. Shoddy work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspectorwill Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Thanks for the all the input. I recommended they raise it. I read the clearance as above the cooking surface plane as well which makes sense. It is substandard work and yes they put a viking in a flip when it's flipped for 2 million. They buy quality appliances and other components but install it all in the same crappy way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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