Canes13 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Someone had sent me a cross reference chart for moisture meter readings for some of the top brands a couple of years ago. Such as, what would a 6% moisture reading on a Protimeter Meter be on a Tramex or a Wagner Meter. My laptop crashed and I lost it. Any help appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben H Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I too would like such a chart. Cough it up boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I can't imagine the benefit of such a chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I was kinda curious also. What would the information imply? Are there known discrepancies with equipment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I guess it has some application if you own every moisture meter on the market. Otherwise, it's just another piece of paper taking up space. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie R Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I know this is drifting, but which moisture meter do people use? I'm thinking of getting a new one, would appreciate any input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben H Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I have the Surveymaster and a Tramex piece. It would be nice to be able to see the numbers between the two. I've looked everywhere for some kind of explanation on what the numbers actually mean on the GE piece. I could be wrong, but I just assumed it was a 3 digit such as 12.8%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles46 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I have an Extech MO 280 pin/pinless meter and a Sonin Rapitest pin meter. The Extech in pinless(non-destructive) mode gets the most use. I also have an Extech MO 290 that came with and syncs with my Flir IR camera. I only use the 290 when doing IR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I have the Surveymaster and a Tramex piece. It would be nice to be able to see the numbers between the two. I've looked everywhere for some kind of explanation on what the numbers actually mean on the GE piece. I could be wrong, but I just assumed it was a 3 digit such as 12.8%. The readings on the various meter are relative to that meter. I have found that in EW work it has been best to report moisture as Low, Medium or High. When I'm asked to define what the levels are I use the following: Low is anything under 12% Med is between 13% to 24% High is anything over 25% (at this level you can usually see the moisture) I also add that moisture and fungal problems are seen more readily once the moisture reaches the Med level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Meiland Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I have the Surveymaster and a Tramex piece. It would be nice to be able to see the numbers between the two. I've looked everywhere for some kind of explanation on what the numbers actually mean on the GE piece. I could be wrong, but I just assumed it was a 3 digit such as 12.8%. Are you talking about REL or %WME mode on the Surveymaster? If the latter, you are getting a direct readout of moisture content in percent, assuming use of the species correction chart. The REL mode is not intended to give a percentage, just a reading relative to other areas of the same material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 The readings on the various meter are relative to that meter. I have found that in EW work it has been best to report moisture as Low, Medium or High. When I'm asked to define what the levels are I use the following: Low is anything under 12% Med is between 13% to 24% High is anything over 25% (at this level you can usually see the moisture) I also add that moisture and fungal problems are seen more readily once the moisture reaches the Med level. I call.... Low <13-14% Med >15-19% Problematic/Mold/Damage >20% The guys around here tend to lock on 20% as the level where problems start, so that's what I do. Is that "too low"? Is 25% a better call for problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Meiland Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 With these problem percentages... are we talking % wood moisture content with a pin meter? Pinless readings in wood? Pinless readings in other stuff? In my experience, around here, stabbing framing lumber in crawl spaces... if it hasn't dried to maybe 16% or less, there is an elevated moisture issue. Around 20% and there's funk, or there's gonna be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 The readings on the various meter are relative to that meter. I have found that in EW work it has been best to report moisture as Low, Medium or High. When I'm asked to define what the levels are I use the following: Low is anything under 12% Med is between 13% to 24% High is anything over 25% (at this level you can usually see the moisture) I also add that moisture and fungal problems are seen more readily once the moisture reaches the Med level. I call.... Low <13-14% Med >15-19% Problematic/Mold/Damage >20% The guys around here tend to lock on 20% as the level where problems start, so that's what I do. Is that "too low"? Is 25% a better call for problems? I think I got the numbers from Ron Huffman or Dennis Rose about 15 years ago. 25% is really more of a easier number to recall, I think that is why so many folks use it. I would also bet that the various meters will have at least a 2% to 3% margin of error. Pretty much anything over 25% is going to be saturated with moisture. Damage/rot really gets cooking around 15% at 20% it is a mold rot buffet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 With these problem percentages... are we talking % wood moisture content with a pin meter? Pinless readings in wood? Pinless readings in other stuff? In my experience, around here, stabbing framing lumber in crawl spaces... if it hasn't dried to maybe 16% or less, there is an elevated moisture issue. Around 20% and there's funk, or there's gonna be. It is relative moisture. In my area if you put the pins of a Survey Master into drywall of a garage that is open in the middle of August I bet you will get readings in the 10% to 16% range. It is due to the humidity in the air and is not really a problem since you have so much air flow and it is not constant. Same goes for most framing in a crawlspace. On reason the we want to see treated lumber in contact with concrete or the ground. Now in a vacant home that is closed up and is allowed to fester that same 15% RM level in the drywall will become a mold farm in about 30 days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 With these problem percentages... are we talking % wood moisture content with a pin meter? Pinless readings in wood? Pinless readings in other stuff? In my experience, around here, stabbing framing lumber in crawl spaces... if it hasn't dried to maybe 16% or less, there is an elevated moisture issue. Around 20% and there's funk, or there's gonna be. It is relative moisture. In my area if you put the pins of a Survey Master into drywall of a garage that is open in the middle of August I bet you will get readings in the 10% to 16% range. It is due to the humidity in the air and is not really a problem since you have so much air flow and it is not constant. Same goes for most framing in a crawlspace. On reason the we want to see treated lumber in contact with concrete or the ground. Now in a vacant home that is closed up and is allowed to fester that same 15% RM level in the drywall will become a mold farm in about 30 days! Yes to that, relative moisture. But also the material or the medium for mould to grow on. Wallpaper or wood with linseed oil on it will grow mold before painted wood will. This old radio cabinet has been out in my unheated shed all winter, in a cardboard box. The Surveymaster measures 20.2 inside and 17.4 around the grill. Mold is starting to grow on the dust on the inner edges of the grill openings. I've wiped most of it off in the picture. But the interior of the cabinet is relatively dust-free, not moldy, even with a slightly higher moisture reading. Now if I'd left an orange in there, oh boy, it would be a green mess. Click to Enlarge 45.56?KB Click to Enlarge 41.04?KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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