Frank Turak Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Here are some pictures of a foundation in a waterfront home. I of course called for a structural engineer due to the conditions observed. This defect started in the garage about 20' away and continued through the foundation wall and footing. I also posted the comment made by the real estate agent sent via email to my client. "HI WALTER.... I'LL BE SENDING YOU YOUR CHECK AND THE EXTRA $100 BY CHECK TODAY. THE xxxxx ARE OF COURSE FIXING THE PROBLEM WHICH IS NOT A STRUCTURAL DEFECT AND DOES NOT SUPPORT ANY OF THE WEIGHT OF THE HOME AND IS VERY SIMPLE TO FIX.... NEW WATERFRONT HOMES WITH CRAWL SPACES IN THE AREA ARE BUILT THE SAME WAY.... THE OWNERS ARE HAVING A STATE CERTIFIED HOME INSPECTOR FAMILIAR WITH WATERFRONT HOMES DO A STRUCTURAL INSPECTION BEFORE AND AFTER THE WORK IS DONE" I of course stated in my report that this is a structural issue requiring further evaluation by a structural engineer familiar with this type of construction. I'm interested in any comments by any inspector who does waterfront properties regarding this type of defect. This home is build on pilings sunk into the ground with the footing and foundation built on top. Download Attachment: BlockFoundationCracks.jpg 33.53 KB Download Attachment: BlockFoundationCracks1.jpg 46.33 KB Download Attachment: FoundationCrack.jpg 63.38 KB Download Attachment: SettledPier.jpg 39.01 KB Thanks all! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcramer Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by Frank Turak This home is build on pilings sunk into the ground with the footing and foundation built on top. This type of foundation is common in my area. I sincerely doubt there are pilings under this foundation. If there were, it wouldn't be sinking into the ground. Pilings are driven under the supervision of an engineer to a designed bearing capacity, which is determined based on soil borings performed prior to the design work. They don't fail like this. It just doesn't happen, unless someone has royally screwed up. If your client buys this house, they will be royally screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Frank, Any other pictures of the exterior? A wider shot perhaps? Darren www.aboutthehouseinspections.com 'Donââ¬â¢t you never try to look behind my eyes, you donââ¬â¢t wanna know what they have seen.' (fz) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Hi, Is it possible it's pole building construction with a concrete stem wall placed around the perimeter under the main floor to enclose it and keep out critters? If so, it would make sense that there really wasn't any load on the foundation because with those everything bears on the poles and on the beams bolted to those. It's a pretty popular method for seaside site because you aren't relying on the stem walls for support. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul burrell Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Looks like typical settlement cracks. Reason I know is my client's Realtor said so about a similar foundation problem recently. [:-paperba Paul B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Amaral Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Mike's correct. Could be perimeter infill with a problem. However, there was one shot of a settled-down block pier... How old was this shack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turak Posted February 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 The block pier has settled about 3" The shim in the picture is the original shim placed under the beam at the time of construction. The piers? used as the footing for the concrete footing and foundation is below grade and not visible. There are no exposed pilings attached to the house anywhere. This foundation runs under the entire house. This crawl is about 2' below grade. This house is 20 years old and build on fill Darren I'll send you a picture of the entire house via email. Don't know how to post a picture to this reply without starting another post Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausdok Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Originally posted by Frank Turak I'll send you a picture of the entire house via email. Don't know how to post a picture to this reply without starting another post Frank To edit your post, just use the 'edit' icon in the top of the post that you want to change or add photos to. When the work box comes up, click on the paper clip icon below the work box next to the words 'upload a linked file' and follow the instructions from there. Make sure that the pictures that you want to post are less than 100KB. If not, resize them first. If you don't have a resizing tool, go to the windows powertoys site and download the resizing tool (it's free). When you upload pictures make sure that there are no symbols or gaps in the file name. For instance the file name "Bad Foundation (Brown House)" won't work. You need to have something like BadFoundationBrownHouse or Bad_Foundation_Brown_House without the parenthesis. Also make sure that the photo is in one of the approved formats for file uploads .jpg, .gif, .bmp. That's it. If I can do it, anyone can 'cuz I'm the supreme ultimate computer moron. ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excalibur Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 I'll go with Mark's opinion. I've seen those sinking foundation , in my side of town ,so many times.Pilings under foundation walls are the common solution. Those verifications are always done by engeneer. It is correct to make it a structural issu and to have it evaluated by a certified structural engineer. I can also see some high humidity problem inside the crawling space ! Looks like the joist in this picture is showing moisture and molds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turak Posted February 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Mark. My client did not buy the house. The deal died when I did the garage during the early part of the inspection. They were concerned about the garage floor. It settled about 4" from the center support to the foundation. That's what that crack in the foundation wall is. It gets worse from there. By the time I went into the crawl he walked down the street and put in an offer on another home. Did not use this agent. This house is listed at 7K. Sure would like to know what inspector is going to certify the work to this foundation. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Remas Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Good call. That agent needs to find another line of work. It's never a problem according to the realtor, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excalibur Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Where there is money $$ there is a realtor . [:-jump] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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