Originally posted by Jim Morrison FWIW, I'd never buy or use a ladder I didn't trust 100%. Where's your sense of adventure Jimmy? Just think of it as sort of like dating...no guarantees, but if you get lucky it might be a beautiful thing. Inspecting roofs, chimneys, and attics just isn't worth a fall. Like autombobile tires and brakes, it's one of those items that isn't worth trying to save money on. Hah! Spoken like a high-dollar Boston inspector. When you're po (can't afford the other 2 letters), there's nothing generic you won't at least consider. "Gee Doc, doesn't Wal Mart or somebody have a Chinese knock-off of that heart valve I need?" Seriously though, I bought an X&C months ago. I haven't had any problems with it other than a few educational hand pinches, but I only use it here and there. I actually don't trust it 100% yet, but we have a lot of old houses around here with scuttle hole accesses in narrow closets. Nothing else works worth a damn for those. Brian G. Wildman, Living on the Ragged Edge [:-dopey]