Jerry Simon Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Amazing how often we (I) read stuff and it doesn't sink in unless it's our own question being answered. Reason I say that... Pretty sure this has been asked before...is this receptacle okay, same being located (partially) above the bathtub. Yes, it's a GFCI. Image Insert: 2055.44 KB If not, code reference? Thanks so very much. Promise I'll remember answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Originally posted by Jerry Simon Amazing how often we (I) read stuff and it doesn't sink in unless it's our own question being answered. Reason I say that... Pretty sure this has been asked before...is this receptacle okay, same being located (partially) above the bathtub. Yes, it's a GFCI. If not, code reference? Thanks so very much. Promise I'll remember answer. If it makes you feel better, I had to look it up. The prohibitions against obvious/stupid stuff are the hardest ones to remember. 406.8©Bathtub and Shower Space. Receptacles shall not be installed within or directly over a bathtub or shower stall. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Simon Posted October 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I do feel better. Typing the report now, so mercy-bow-coupe d'ville for the timely response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msteger Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I wonder what the person who installed that receptacle there was thinking... apparently nothing. That's the problem. Along the same lines, I often find light switches within the shower/bathtub compartment as well. I believe the rules for light switches varies from the receptacle rule, but I still recommend relocating switches in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Fabry Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I know I posted this a few years back but it's still the best I've seen. Image Insert: 35.41 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Originally posted by msteger I wonder what the person who installed that receptacle there was thinking... apparently nothing. That's the problem. Along the same lines, I often find light switches within the shower/bathtub compartment as well. I believe the rules for light switches varies from the receptacle rule, but I still recommend relocating switches in this situation. Yes, the rule for switches is different. 404.4 Damp or Wet Locations. Blah, blah, blah . . . Switches shall not be installed within wet locations in tub or shower spaces unless installed as part of a listed tub or shower assembly. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msteger Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 From that verbiage, Jim, I would say that the rules for receptacles and switches (for lights or fans) are actually fairly similar. Neither should be installed within a shower/bathtub compartment. By the switches "installed as part of a listed tub or shower assembly", is that referring to a switch for a jetted tub, for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Originally posted by msteger From that verbiage, Jim, I would say that the rules for receptacles and switches (for lights or fans) are actually fairly similar. Neither should be installed within a shower/bathtub compartment. Not quite. That's an oversimplification. Receptacles can't be installed within or directly above a tub or shower stall. This is the more restrictive of the two rules. Switches can't be within *wet locations* of tub or shower spaces. Wet locations are defined in Article 100. It includes ". . . areas subject to saturation with water or other liquids, such as vehicle washing areas . . ." I'd say you aren't allowed to put a switch on a shower wall, but you are allowed to put one on the wall above a bathtub that has no shower. By the switches "installed as part of a listed tub or shower assembly", is that referring to a switch for a jetted tub, for example? I don't know what they're referring to there. The switches for jetted tubs are usually air switches; they aren't electrical. I've never seen a switch that's part of a listed tub or shower assembly. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Almost all of the earlier bubble tubs I've seen used a wall switch/timer mechanism. I still see them on houses from the 80's. Maybe that's what they're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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