kurt

Rumor masquerading as education.

Republicans are in charge now. Maybe they'll roll it back.

I looked too, and couldn't find anything. As long as the breaker is sized for the smallest conductor, I don't know why it would not be allowed. I just always thought it wasn't. Not sure why.

So, I'm curious now. Is it allowed or not? I thought it wasn't.

Looks like a textbook example of ice dam backup. Is there an ice patch along the eave? Are the gutters full of ice? Is there ice and water shield under the eave shingles....if so, does it wrap behind the gutter? (Probably not.)

Their use of sealant and modern mortar on that old masonry is destroying it.

Quite a place. I'm surprised it's only 4.2 mil.

I'm not that extreme. That clear bubbling stream on your avatar might still be that way because of EPA. Like all government agencies, there's insane overreach. Determining where the line is gets complicated in some cases, not so much in others.

I've googled that so many times, it's silly. The people most concerned about it are testing and enforcement agencies. As far as the rest of it, I know. That's pretty much my take too. It's cheap and easy to address, so why not? Current EPA policy is bad science based in projections from completely unrelated conditions, tested for in highly questionable protocols with cheap portable equipment with lousy accuracy, and bounced off of random standards having little relationship to anything medical science considers valid. Not saying radon is OK, but I'm biased in wanting good science if we're supposed to do something about it.

I have become dubious about all of this over the years because all the "statistics" and cited risk percentages are not based in any actual or valid studies. It's all projections from other industries and activities, primarily coal miners working in highly elevated and concentrated radon environments. If any business or organization did this to promote their position, they would be fined, indicted, or otherwise hounded out of existence. And the "test"......What science comes to conclusions that result in billions of dollars of activity based on crappy equipment and statistically validated testing procedures demanded by the NAR? Is the medical profession and industry really blind and have their collective heads in the sand on radon? I've yet to talk with any medical professional that thinks it's a major problem.

Probably most accurate. Multi family always ups the ante for problems.

Good point. Could be the building has mechanical bath ventilation and it's screwed up. I overlooked the multi-family aspect. Could be someone else in the building has ridiculous moisture issues effecting the entire building and it's showing up in the attic.

Read the history of how ventilation specs were developed. Completely random all the way from 1930. There's either a ridiculous amount of moisture in the house (which I'd guess you'd see), or the ventilation isn't adequate. If the plywood is blackened and it's all ice, I don't see how ventilation is adequate. Honestly, I don't think it's that big a deal, but I'd put it in the report.

All the time this time of year. Ventilation is "good", but as we know, ventilation spec's are completely random, so my take is it's not so good. Add a house that's not air sealed, and you've got a humidor up there. The insulation is hitting dew point just like the plywood, isn't it?

By turning down the screen brightness a bit, I've gotten >10 hours. I can boot start my computer and it takes <10 seconds to be up and fully functional. From sleep, it's about 1-2 seconds. Marc hit on an important note. Initially, one laments those few special little utility programs available to PC but not Mac. Then, as you learn the new operating system you keep discovering all the amazingly cool things that are included and that can be utilized to make your life really easy.

I would never debate that it's not dangerous, and I've spent enough time being harangued by fireplace guys about all the issues with fireplace safety to understand not to ask them questions like "how dangerous is it really?" You ask that question of a fireplace geek and they go berserk and look at you like you're totally insane. That's why I asked in here, where some semblance of reasonableness still exists. Personally, I like my fires outside where I can play with them.

Where's the cut out showing the ash dump flapper? The cut out in the middle doesn't look like that; it looks like a piece of scrap that was used for the form. I'm not disagreeing with your assessment. I think you're right. I'm just curious about that cutout now. Inasmuch as every house has this same condition, I was just wondering how dangerous it really is.

It's a vastly superior operating system. I have my complaints, but Apple's universe of components and how they all integrate within a single operating system is so much nicer than dinking around with kludgy MS stuff. The equipment is better too. I get more than twice the life out of my Macbook as I ever have out of any of the MS clones. I've also shown people how Mac's are actually less expensive if one considers lifespan and cost per month, and the fact that so much useful stuff comes loaded on the machine. MS comes loaded with crapware; Apple comes loaded with stuff I actually enjoy using. And the MS browser....IE....what a load of kludge. I wish Google would come up with a complete operating system and universe of components that would run all software, not just Google stuff.

Looks like water to me too. How dangerous does the brethren think this condition is? I know what the fireplace people think. I'm just curious if anyone thinks this is a real hazard, or if it's another thing to put in the report.

What Kibbel said is right. There's nothing wrong with the flues being in proximity. It's all the other stuff.

I think I'm feeling sick.....

I don't think I made a point. The OP wanted personal experience stories, so I rattled off some experiences in the disparate regulatory environment. Hell yes I write them up if I find them. Problem is in finding them. Most were abandoned, vents and fill pipes knocked off, maybe sand or dirt put in the tank. I've seen a few that were barely there, just rusted hulks with holes so big the tank fell apart when it got lifted out of the ground. Found one in Evanston and the City said they didn't even want to know about it (more or less). Wilmette used to care, a lot; now, I know of a couple Wilmette tanks that got dug up and carted off as scrap. That doesn't mean they don't care, it just means people ditch them without calling in the authorities. Kenilworth, I don't know. Winnetka used to freak out, then shifted to looking the other way unless you grabbed them and pointed their nose in it, and now....I don't know. Maybe they care again. It's a bit silly to get cranked up about 70 year old residential tanks when there's the refineries, steel mills, and Wolf Lake superfund central screwing up the Big Pond. That doesn't mean I'm not looking for tanks.

Where? Which 'burbs care nowadays? I'm aware of a few (or several) that got yanked by....somebody or another...put on a truck, gone.

Not in Chicago. The last person I'd want to look over a boiler is a Local 130 guy. Do plumbers do boilers in Baltimore?

Proof that it can get real bad depending on local reg's. Woof......