Well, this is a home inspectors' site and the "patrons" are home inspectors, aren't they? Now, if I went and hung out on an HVAC forum and started dissing the patrons there, I'd probably be doing exactly what, oh, I dunno, YOU are doing, wouldn't I? I know the thread you are referring to, can you tell me the specific post where a home inspector called himself or home inspectors Gods, or is that a little bit of theatrical embellishment made by you because you felt slighted by the tone that thread took? I'll bet you I can go to any HVAC forum on the planet right now and find one or two posts where the HVAC guys are bitching about those damned home inspectors. Maybe I'd even find you participating in one or two of those discussions, and laying into those (sneer) so-called home inspectors. No? You're still spending most of your time not bringing anything to the table here. We've got other trades that hang here regularly who are very helpful and want to help make our profession be better. They don't spend a lot of time trying to find fault here and they, like us, know there's a lot of room for improvement in their own profession, so they've adopted a thick hide when here and very graciously take it and return it by helping here and earning the respect of the brethren. Do you think you're big enough of a man to do that, or is it more important for you to find fault here. I'm beginning to think that you might have recently been traumatized by something a home inspector wrote and hanging out here and sniping at inspectors is your way of getting payback. Is that why you are really here? ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!! Mike im trying very hard to be helpfull here! maybe if you read some of the previous postings the members have made about contractors being a bunch of dumbasses instead of just ignoring them we might get someplace! im just trying to give some sugestions here is all,and no im not worried about some home inspector bully out here in the real world .the only inspectors that i need to worry about throughout my day are employed by the city and state of where ever im working at the time.the reason i came on here was to try and learn somethings that might help me or my customers in the future.instead all i seem to find is you guys cant handle anybody asking questions or having some actual real world experiance that you guys cant find in a book! its a 2 way street guys