Jimbo1 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I need help determining the rules around the new SEER 13 A/C requirements. I know the rule went into affect in 01/06. However, it states that it applies to anything 'manufactered' after that date, not installed. How long can a builder stockpile units? I'm buying a home sold new in 05/07 and it has SEER 10 & 12 units. The home was started in 2007. Is there not a cutoff point for a builder to get up to par or is there no time limit for them to use old equipment? Thx, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I need help determining the rules around the new SEER 13 A/C requirements. I know the rule went into affect in 01/06. However, it states that it applies to anything 'manufactered' after that date, not installed. How long can a builder stockpile units? I'm buying a home sold new in 05/07 and it has SEER 10 & 12 units. The home was started in 2007. Is there not a cutoff point for a builder to get up to par or is there no time limit for them to use old equipment? Thx, Jim As far as I know, you've described the issue perfectly. There's no cutoff point that I've heard of. The rule doesn't affect new old stock. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I need help determining the rules around the new SEER 13 A/C requirements. I know the rule went into affect in 01/06. However, it states that it applies to anything 'manufactered' after that date, not installed. How long can a builder stockpile units? I'm buying a home sold new in 05/07 and it has SEER 10 & 12 units. The home was started in 2007. Is there not a cutoff point for a builder to get up to par or is there no time limit for them to use old equipment? Thx, Jim As far as I know, you've described the issue perfectly. There's no cutoff point that I've heard of. The rule doesn't affect new old stock. - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1 Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Originally posted by Jim Katen Originally posted by Jimbo1 I need help determining the rules around the new SEER 13 A/C requirements. I know the rule went into affect in 01/06. However, it states that it applies to anything 'manufactered' after that date, not installed. How long can a builder stockpile units? I'm buying a home sold new in 05/07 and it has SEER 10 & 12 units. The home was started in 2007. Is there not a cutoff point for a builder to get up to par or is there no time limit for them to use old equipment? Thx, Jim As far as I know, you've described the issue perfectly. There's no cutoff point that I've heard of. The rule doesn't affect new old stock. - Jim Katen, Oregon Well, that's the pits. Looks like the builder has circumvented the intent of the law by stockpiling cheaper equipment and dumping it on unspecting consumers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark P Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 As far as I know, you've described the issue perfectly. There's no cutoff point that I've heard of. The rule doesn't affect new old stock. - Jim Katen, Oregon Well, that's the pits. Looks like the builder has circumvented the intent of the law by stockpiling cheaper equipment and dumping it on unspecting consumers..... I agree it stinks, so ask yourself where else he is cutting corners? Hire a good inspector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msteger Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I need help determining the rules around the new SEER 13 A/C requirements. I know the rule went into affect in 01/06. However, it states that it applies to anything 'manufactered' after that date, not installed. How long can a builder stockpile units? I'm buying a home sold new in 05/07 and it has SEER 10 & 12 units. The home was started in 2007. Is there not a cutoff point for a builder to get up to par or is there no time limit for them to use old equipment? Thx, Jim I agree with the others. I think they can keep installing what they have of old stuff until they run out. When they have to order new units, they'll be 13 or higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Katen Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 . . . Well, that's the pits. Looks like the builder has circumvented the intent of the law by stockpiling cheaper equipment and dumping it on unspecting consumers..... There's a whole lot of assumption in that statement. If it makes you feel better, he'd probably have installed the 13 seer unit improperly anyway so you'd have gotten even worse efficiency than you're getting now. If you're going to assume, you might as well assume on the bright side. . . - Jim Katen, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Scott Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 Kinda of like lead paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Hockstein Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 IN NJ we have to include energy calculations as part of the plan submittals for new houses. If the A/C is lower efficiency it will have to be offset by additional insulation, better windows, etc.. In some cases, the miminum performance cannot be met without higher SEER A/C systems. The requirements are a moving target, but they were in affect in 2007. Checkout this website for information about how to calculate energy efficiency of homes. There is a free program that you can download. There are also energy code specialists that can answer your questions. http://www.energycodes.gov/rescheck/download.stm Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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