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I bet they make every order to spec and dry fit it before it's shipped. Looks like they might not even sell it to an individual. Check out the installation link. They want it glued down and it looks like they want trained installers to do it. You can probably make your own with a band saw, a planer, a router, beer, and a whole lot of ambition.

Maybe I should have put one of the little smartass face thingys after that comment. Hmmm. If they had drilled into the side of the cap instead of the pipe, that would probably work just fine Now aint that special? Special ed plumbing that is! [:-crazy]

Hmmm. If they had drilled into the side of the cap instead of the pipe, that would probably work just fine

Thanks, Gentlemen.

Roughly, around six feet.

House was built in 96. The kitchen sink is in an island. There's no loop and no mechanical vent. Just a really nice S trap. Q is, how far back did they require a loop for these? I've seen a reference to 2003. Nothing before that.

I don't know what it is, but I bet it took some head scratching to figure out what to do with that puzzle.

This bundle of branch circuit wiring is wrapped in fiberglass pipe insulation to keep it separated from the boiler exhaust vent. Nice! Click to Enlarge 59.1 KB

So do wet river rocks and unopened bottles of some beer so I uhhhhmmmm, hear. Wet rocks are one thing. Tossing unopened bottles of beer into a fire, is nothing less than alcohol abuse. Shame on you.

Quite a few years ago, I ran into a friend I hadn't seen in some time. When I asked what he'd been doing, he shocked me by saying he had been on the road doing thatched roofs. Really? You're kidding, right? I don't know if this was the guy he worked for or if he worked on this roof, but this place is about five miles from my house. Another friend owns the fair. http://www.thatching.com/sterling.shtml

Yeah ok. Doing that makes as much sense as banning black Nike sneakers to prevent kids from following Marshall Applewhite to the Hale bopp comet. If your in a gang, I'm thinking banning your hoodie isn't going to suddenly cause you to see the light. It's a nice thought for those who insist on fooling themselves and feeling like they're making a difference by initiating these silly rules instead of dealing with the tattoo under the hoodie. Good timing for me. Thanks for the Info on the FP panels since I just ran into one the other day.

Hoodies are dangerous or so my son's middle school administration thinks! They have "outlawed" them on school property because they are a safety concern. Supposedly students have been hurt when the hood is pulled from behind! Guess who's son had to test the new rule to see if they were serious! Yep, you got it right! Uh, these folks never thought to maybe outlaw pulling a hood from behind? Sounds like gun control logic to me. No more underwear either. Someone might give you a wedgie.

I like the little hockey net. It's strategic placement might be what saves you from the patent infringement.

So that's what makes Lucky charms so magically delicious!

Now that's funny... Oh you think that's funny? Look at this. Click to Enlarge 50.7 KB

You guys all got it right. VCT Click to Enlarge 59.99 KB The guy was a friend, so I told him he should get a grinder, a scotchbright 7440 pad, some wax and burnish it. That was only the tip of the iceburg. I couldn't get to the bank fast enough after I was done with this place.

Never seen this before. Click to Enlarge 50.04 KB I'll let you have a few cracks at it before I tell you what it is. Someone will probably nail it pretty quick.

And the fasteners? The one thing that seems to be different around here from years past, has been the size of the ice dams. They were huge. I say were because we just had a few days where it was warm enough to either get rid of them all together, or at least bring them way down from where they were. That seems to be a pretty good argument for using Ice and Water for at least six foot around here.

A reminder.

Saying things like that, might further encourage this behavior.

Hey Spiderman, grab your shovel and take a little drive east. You can make a good buck cleaning roofs and there's no paperwork involved.

Which brings up the question...What's the dominant failure mode with excessive snow on the roof? Rafter spread? Rafter failure? Marc I'm going to do a little digging to try to find that out. Numbers are a great guideline. Not a perfect answer though. I'd be real surprised to find out the older homes here were built any different than in NJ. We've only had 170" so far this year. Syracuse has only had 140". If this was as simple as roofs being underbuilt, this area would've been leveled long before we were born or, every place would be an A frame.

I'd love to know why so many in the last two weeks? This is not an unusual winter. There's got to be a good explanation for the very unusual number that have caved in. Houses don't cave in around here. Commercial buildings do. Some of these places were truss built and some rafter built. Some hip, some gable. There dosen't seem to be any kind of a pattern with the age of these homes. I'm wondering if years of smaller ice dams have slowly deteriorated rafter tails and top plates to where they finally let go.

Please disregard post #8. Here's today's collapse. http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/R ... iFINQ.cspx

We're getting close to stepping up on them. That blue sky in the background is right behind another lake band that left at least another foot between late last night and around ten this morning. It was a whole lot of fun to drive in. Five MPH or less but, don't you dare stop unless you you want a back bumper full of metal and plastic. Right now the band is still pounding away just north of here. It's getting a little scary now. More roofs have come down in the last week than I can ever remember in the past. The combination of snow mixed with rain and then more heavy snow has taken its toll on at least ten places I know of. Yesterday, one home caved in then burnt the rest of the way to the ground. No one was hurt. I took the shoes out to walk around my own house for a look. I've got some big dams but, it's doing ok. The shoes will be with me for tomorrow's job.