robert1966 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Well some people just don't believe their property has foundation problems until you explain what things like these mean! Click to Enlarge 79.43 KB Click to Enlarge 73.08 KB Click to Enlarge 76.43 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Booth Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 .........did you write-up that missing j-box cover? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCHI1434 Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Wow it amazes me sometimes when clients say things like "well we just never noticed cause we have lived here so long". What the length of time have to do with a huge settling issue with your foundation ha lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 That looks like brick veneer, not structural brick. Were you able to see actual foundation problems and correlate them to the movement in the brick veneer? What year construction was that building? That brick veneer should have ties that hold it to the wood framework of the building. If it was installed correctly, that kind of movement would be unusual. I'm not saying movement cant happen in brick veneer, but that looks like a botched job of retrofit or refaced brick veneer on an older building. Maybe the brick veneer did not have proper load support at its base or lacked wall ties, or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Simon Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 That brick veneer should have ties that hold it to the wood framework of the building. If it was installed correctly, that kind of movement would be unusual. But doesn't the wood framework/exterior wall framing also rest on the foundation, and if the foundation moved, the brick and the wood wall would both move, regardless of any wall-ties (ties keep the brick from toppling & bulging). Not, at all, unusual IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 That brick veneer should have ties that hold it to the wood framework of the building. If it was installed correctly, that kind of movement would be unusual. But doesn't the wood framework/exterior wall framing also rest on the foundation, and if the foundation moved, the brick and the wood wall would both move, regardless of any wall-ties (ties keep the brick from toppling & bulging). Not, at all, unusual IMHO. Many times, a foundation will sink and leave a gap at the sill. The wood frame structure will kind of hang there as a boxed unit. I just think to see that much movement in the brick veneer caused by the foundation movement, there would be many other indicating factors throughout the structure. The OP did not mention any other indicating factors. That's why I'm curious. Am I correct in the idea that the foundation can move and the wood structure hang unsupported without much corresponding movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert1966 Posted November 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Hey everyone! Thanks for the responses. Sorry I was so brief on the description, Yes there were interior traces that correlate with the new expansion joint that had formed. [:-slaphap Pretty much everything you could imagine cracked sheetrock, cracked tiles, doors not closing, plumbing pipes that had broke. Anything you could think of. It was built in the 80's and was a commercial property. Yes I noted the electrical issues! Normally IMO yes it is very possible to have settlement or foundation issues without brick veneer being affected. From my experience, properties that have foundation issues, if the brick or whatever veneer is used, is cracked severely like this case, then the damage is usually due to the settlement. Now if a property doesn't have significant structural signs then yes I would say it was related to the product or installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Hey everyone! Thanks for the responses. Sorry I was so brief on the description, Yes there were interior traces that correlate with the new expansion joint that had formed. [:-slaphap Pretty much everything you could imagine cracked sheetrock, cracked tiles, doors not closing, plumbing pipes that had broke. Anything you could think of. It was built in the 80's and was a commercial property. Yes I noted the electrical issues! Normally IMO yes it is very possible to have settlement or foundation issues without brick veneer being affected. From my experience, properties that have foundation issues, if the brick or whatever veneer is used, is cracked severely like this case, then the damage is usually due to the settlement. Now if a property doesn't have significant structural signs then yes I would say it was related to the product or installation. Interesting. I've always used brick veneer as a barometer of the health of the foundation since brickwork is so unforgiving of any differential movement on part of the foundation. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert1966 Posted November 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Marc, sorry if that part came out confusing, I agree with you. What I meant by that was, it's possible to have settlement and foundation issues with out brick cracking, but normally that indicates that the settlement is not very severe. I too gauge how progressed and severe foundation issues are by whether or not it has affected the wall covering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Simon Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Many times, a foundation will sink and leave a gap at the sill. The wood frame structure will kind of hang there as a boxed unit. Am I correct in the idea that the foundation can move and the wood structure hang unsupported without much corresponding movement? Do you build without foundation sill plate anchors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dirks Jr Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Many times, a foundation will sink and leave a gap at the sill. The wood frame structure will kind of hang there as a boxed unit. Am I correct in the idea that the foundation can move and the wood structure hang unsupported without much corresponding movement? Do you build without foundation sill plate anchors? No, I don't. But I've seen some missing the anchor bolts. I've also seen the chincy straps without fasteners or incorrect fasteners. They wont pull the wood frame down if the footing falls. They just open up and let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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