chrisprickett Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Not that I don't see this every day, but sometimes I just have to vent. This particular builder loves to talk about it's JD Power ratings, customer commitment, and all that other bull, but the findings I reported yesterday are not at all uncommon. FWIW, this is a brand new home. It was never lived in, flipped by an investor, and was completed in Nov. 05'. My inspection was for the "flippee". I'm sure the investor never did a walk-thru, but this was the finished product delivered with the fine upstanding builder's stamp of approval: -Broken Truss -Two damaged Romex wires -Heaving driveway -Overcut hole in garage (firewall) ceiling for WH flue -Exterior outlets not tied to GFCI's (and a few loose) -Romex strung in the attic like it was spaghetti -No "high-loop" for dishwasher drain -Hot & Cold reversed at laundy sink -Doorbell doesn't work -Foyer light no power -misc. stuck windows A few incriminating pics Download Attachment: unsecured romex.jpg 161.47 KB Download Attachment: Heaving driveway.jpg 144.91 KB Download Attachment: Damaged Romex 1.jpg 144.1 KB Download Attachment: Damaged Romex 2.jpg 150.31 KB Download Attachment: Mangled truss.jpg 150.81 KB Download Attachment: Overcut flue hole.jpg 148.16 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Morrison Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Chris, Pictures like that are NEVER going to get you any love from the builders, my friend. Do you come across heaved driveways very often? I was surprised to see that photo. What causes that sort of thing to happen in balmy Arizona? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisprickett Posted February 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Originally posted by Jim Morrison Chris, Pictures like that are NEVER going to get you any love from the builders, my friend. Do you come across heaved driveways very often? I was surprised to see that photo. What causes that sort of thing to happen in balmy Arizona? I see heaving slabs, driveways, walks, and patios ALL the time, mostly due to expansive soils. As far as love from the builders, no worries! My wife starts my truck in the morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence McCann Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Originally posted by chrisprickett As far as love from the builders, no worries! My wife starts my truck in the morning! Now that wasn't nice. I'd buy a remote starter for her, that way she won't get distracted from cooking and cleaning![:-dev3] Hope my wife never reads these.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 My find on a new construction yesterday. This is a hip rafter that is about 12' in length. Download Attachment: IMG_7409.JPG 121.13 KB Download Attachment: IMG_7408.JPG 131.96 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Just a couple of questions for the builder: the first is the rough door to basement and the second is just being thrifty on materials. Download Attachment: DSC02309.JPG 586.86 KB Download Attachment: DSC02318.JPG 579.84 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garcha Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 It's very common to find mildew on several joists and trusses that were left in the yard during construction. What recommendations do you guys generally make when you see this if the mildew is localized and limited to the truss or joist and not spread to the decking or subfloor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 I am re-posting those photos. Seems I got a little carried away with size. The first photo is actually the second one. Download Attachment: DSC02318.JPG 19.48 KB Download Attachment: DSC02309.JPG 22.81 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Originally posted by Garcha It's very common to find mildew on several joists and trusses that were left in the yard during construction. What recommendations do you guys generally make when you see this if the mildew is localized and limited to the truss or joist and not spread to the decking or subfloor. You should not see "Fuzzy" lumber in an attic. Stained wood, IMO is not a big deal. Now with that said, every house is different just as every inspection is different. I use what I call "My Child" rule. It is simple and concise. This is it; Would I let my child buy or move into this home with this condition? You can make it the "Grandma" rule or whatever works for you. If a situation does not pass this "Rule", then I report it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisprickett Posted February 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 I've always called it "yard mold". I don't give much concern as long as it is only on the framing and not on the sheathing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garcha Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Only on the framing-never on the adjoining materials. It seems that with all the other good reasons to get sued I would want to avoid Environmental issues. I know inspectors that will call this out and then sell environmental tests. I like the "My Child" rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jseddy Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I can tell you from being a truss designer, some jobs get built and sit in the lumber yard for months at a time before shipping, then sit exposed at the site for who knows how long. True story. Just yesterday I rebuilt a lot for the 2nd time. The builder keeps changing the model for the lot after he places the order. I have 2 whole houses sitting outside right now waiting for someone to want them. One is nearly 9 months old. We use moisture meters. Trusses are stored outside, tarped, sitting on blocks spaced not greater than 10' to get off the ground. (or at least that's what is supposed to happen. If I go out there right now, that's probably not what I'll see.) I used to be the lead designer for a major national supplier you all know, 2 numbers in the name, it was scary the stuff they sent out of those yards sometimes. If you have a chance to educate the frames on mold, take the opportunity. Maybe they might refuse delivery or get some evaluation before installing the things. Though, that's a lot to ask with a crane sitting there charging him $150 and hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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