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[John Dirks Jr]

I see it done this way these days. We all know it could be better. Obviously the flashing is not let into the brick or mortar. I also see step flashings that are not let into the mortar.

Is a step flashing that is not let into mortar joints any better than the one pictured?

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[StevenT]

I would think not, especially since the horizontals would allow water to stand and eventually get in. Not that this is much better.

[Chad Fabry]

That's just wrong. Lazy, incompetent, wrong.

[drcr]

A stepped flashing would be better. A long piece of metal like that in the pic will expand and contract more, eventually breaking the caulking seal.

[John Dirks Jr]

Originally posted by drcr

A stepped flashing would be better. A long piece of metal like that in the pic will expand and contract more, eventually breaking the caulking seal.

Now that's information I can use. Thanks. [:-thumbu]

[John Dirks Jr]

I also see single pieces of long flashing that are cut with a step pattern. Does the step cut actually help or are they just trying to fool you into thinking is true step flashing?

[Tom Raymond]

Hi,

Been lurking here for a while and finaly had to say something; how is it that all of you missed the fact that this is a standing seam roof and can't possibly have step flashing?

Chad you'll never live that down!

BTW, that detail sucks.

Tom

[Brandon Whitmore]

I believe he meant stepped counter flashing--- that was my take.

[Tom Raymond]

My bad, probably a little snippy for my first post here but I've been hanging around and feel I know some of you guys. I do know Chad and his, shall we say, fondness for proper terminology.

"Step flashing" in the local jargon would be woven into courses of shingles of some kind or other that is then covered on the vertical side by either the siding or a counter flashing or both. In any event, the proper technique for John's post would be for a continuous flashing from the wall onto the waterproof membrane under the metal, a bead of approved sealant, the metal roof panel, a bead of approved sealant, another continuous flashing, and a counter flashing that is cut into the brick. What he has is a sloppy metal roof-over that is unfortunately all too common.

Tom

[Chad Fabry]

Hey Tom,

Welcome to the forum.

Chad you'll never live that down!

Tom you'll have 'oh so many' opportunities to pin that phrase on my chest but all I said about this is that it's a terrible detail.

Be patient...the time will come.

[ozofprev]

You'll have to be VERY patient, Tom. Inspectors like Chad and Kurt have more hands on experience than pretty much anybody you'll meet. Beats book-learnin' every time. Well, many times.

[drcr]

To "sort of" answer the question.

I don't think so. There would be less metal to heat and expand, but also less metal to counter act said expansion. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

Mainly just for looks.

And there would be less confusion if the "step flashing" of "local jargon" was referred to by it's traditional name, "soaker flashing" or just "soakers".

Does that help?[:-crazy]

[Jim Katen]

Originally posted by drcr

. . . And there would be less confusion if the "step flashing" of "local jargon" was referred to by it's traditional name, "soaker flashing" or just "soakers".

Never heard them called soakers or soaker flashing before. I believe that the NRCA uses the term step flashing.

- Jim Katen, Oregon

[drcr]

You are right Jim.

The NRCA does use the term "step flashing". As well as "base flashing" and "baby tins".

They further confuse the point by stating ;

D.Cap Flashings (counterflashings)

3. " Flashing hooks should be used to secure step flashings, and the vertical legs of the flashing should be secured with roofer's cement colored to match the masonry. Soldering of step flashings is recommended." Obviously referring to "stepped counter flashing".

I guess I was going back aways for "soakers". It's still used in the UK. Maybe less confusion over there. (yeah right)[]