jodil Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 I am still not sure what I am looking for in the verbage on the CH label that willtell me if a double tap is ok... Here's the label. Can you tell me if its ok, and what I am looking for that says its ok? Image Insert: 184.52 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim H Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Originally posted by jodil I am still not sure what I am looking for in the verbage on the CH label that willtell me if a double tap is ok... Here's the label. Can you tell me if its ok, and what I am looking for that says its ok? Image Insert: 184.52 KB Jodi, That breaker is not designed for two conductors. If a breaker is designed for two conductors, it will say so on the label. The only ones I've seen are Square D Type QO. It will say 1 or 2. There will be pressure plates at the terminal that sandwich a conductor on either side, in a slot. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Moore Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Originally posted by Tim H Jodi, That breaker is not designed for two conductors. If a breaker is designed for two conductors, it will say so on the label. The only ones I've seen are Square D Type QO. It will say 1 or 2. There will be pressure plates at the terminal that sandwich a conductor on either side, in a slot. Tim Gotta disagree with Tim here. For quite some time (maybe always), all Cutler Hammer type CH breakers, both single and double pole, up to 30-amps are listed by the manufacturer for one 8-14 AWG Al/Cu conductor or two 10-14 AWG Cu only conductors. It's not on that label in the photo. It's embossed on the side of the breaker. See photo. Image Insert: 93.66 KB Also see the Cutler-Hammer chart... Image Insert: 92.33 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim H Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Richard, Does the C/H have the pressure plate like the Square D? Thanks for the correction. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Moore Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 It does have a plate, but it doesn't look anything like the Square-D and frankly, it doesn't look as good as the Square-D...but it is "listed". I have a close-up photo I took at the big box the other day... Image Insert: 113.93 KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I'm with Richard. I don't like these type breakers, but at least the Square D has an intelligent design for the lug. Brian G. "Square D" Sounds Like A Dude Ranch [:-cowboy] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Raymond Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Originally posted by Brian G [navy]but at least the Square D has an intelligent design for the lug. I would say that the lug is more of an evolutionary developement then one of intelligent design[:-angel] Tom Sorry, couldn't resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian G Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Hah! Good one Tom. [:-slaphap Brian G. Take It Easy Mister....Now, Just Put Down the Loaded Words and Nobody Gets Hurt [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Kubs Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Originally posted by Richard Moore Originally posted by Tim H Jodi, That breaker is not designed for two conductors. If a breaker is designed for two conductors, it will say so on the label. The only ones I've seen are Square D Type QO. It will say 1 or 2. There will be pressure plates at the terminal that sandwich a conductor on either side, in a slot. Tim Gotta disagree with Tim here. For quite some time (maybe always), all Cutler Hammer type CH breakers, both single and double pole, up to 30-amps are listed by the manufacturer for one 8-14 AWG Al/Cu conductor or two 10-14 AWG Cu only conductors. It's not on that label in the photo. It's embossed on the side of the breaker. See photo. Not sure how long it's been but it's definitely not always. I have one here on my desk, 20amp. single pole that does not have that listing on the casing or label. The terminal is different then the one you have pictured, looks like the one Jodi has pictured where the wire goes under the screw head, therein lies the difference, the one Jodi has is not rated for two conductors. I know I've had this breaker for at least ten, maybe 15 years. Not sure when the change took place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Moore Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 "...looks like the one Jodi has pictured where the wire goes under the screw head" Good spot Kyle. I didn't see that. Yep...I don't think any that are wired at the screw can take more than one. So...not "always". Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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