Marc Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Anyone aware of any cabinetry installation standard or some kind of ammo I can use against a half-twit cabinet installer? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Meiland Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Check out the Architectural Woodwork Institute standards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben H Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I know the installers in neck use drywall screws, and lots of them, because they don't own or know how to use stud finders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 What have ya got going on, Marc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Don Lovering (ASHI member) had a good article in the Reporter a couple of years ago. I think it can be viewed on the ASHI Reporter website by anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 A friend called me over and waited until I explained everything wrong with the kitchen cabinet remodel before finally telling me that it was the spouse who was silently painting nearby that had contracted with the cabinetmaker. He had a gripe with her over the choice of contractor and put me smack dab in the middle. That explained why she wasn't as social with me as usual. I started this thread after getting the call but before the visit. The cabs were bad enough that I already have all the ammo I need. I just need a little body armor now. Thanks anyway fellas. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 The Kitchen Cabinet Manufacturer's Association should be able to provide what you need. Call them if you can't find what you need on their website. Kitchen Cabinet Manufacturer's Association Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Kienitz Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 ... I just need a little body armor now ... Marc, Maybe a nice bottle of wine for the couple or an arrangement of (uumm, eerr ... ) "pink" flowers for the spouse !! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottpat Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Don's article, I think non members can view it but I'm not sure.... http://www.ashireporter.org/articles/ar ... px?id=1191 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Don's article, I think non members can view it but I'm not sure.... http://www.ashireporter.org/articles/ar ... px?id=1191 That's good information. I don't recall ever seeing a cert label but then I wasn't looking. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Looks like this. Click to Enlarge 36.38?KB The code "QJ" (at bottom center) on this one identifies the manufacturer of the cabinet as: MC-2 (QJ) Masco/Quality Cabinets PO Box 1946, Adrian, MI USA Phone: (517)263-0771 www.qualitycabinets.com Code decipher at: http://www.kcma.org/index.cfm?fuseactio ... ode_Search The label is usually on one of the doors under the kitchen sink but sometimes on a bathroom vanity cabinet door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Where's MC-2 on the label? There's no QJ at KCMA. What am I reading wrong? Also, does anyone have the citation regarding the need for escutcheons on plumbing stub outs? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kogel Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Where's MC-2 on the label? There's no QJ at KCMA. What am I reading wrong? Also, does anyone have the citation regarding the need for escutcheons on plumbing stub outs? Marc Escutcheon, that would be a "trim ring" or "wall trim" so the plumber and the client would know what I meant. [] Good question. I've come to the conclusion that trim is superfluous, but could be wrong. "Escutcheons are required" would probably ruffle some feathers around here and get my phone ringing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtblum Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Where's MC-2 on the label? There's no QJ at KCMA. What am I reading wrong? Also, does anyone have the citation regarding the need for escutcheons on plumbing stub outs? Marc Escutcheon, that would be a "trim ring" or "wall trim" so the plumber and the client would know what I meant. [] You need to be real careful of your use of "that" word around here. You might find yourself ducking a fifteenth century dictionary at any second. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erby Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 (QJ) follows the MC-2 (in parentheses) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lamb Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Where's MC-2 on the label? There's no QJ at KCMA. What am I reading wrong? Also, does anyone have the citation regarding the need for escutcheons on plumbing stub outs? Marc Escutcheons are cosmetic. Penetrations should be sealed at outside walls, though. SECTION 315 PENETRATIONS 315.1 Sealing of annular spaces. The annular space between the outside of a pipe and the inside of a pipe sleeve or between the outside of a pipe and an opening in a building envelope wall, floor, or ceiling assembly penetrated by a pipe shall be sealed in an approved manner with caulking material, foam sealant or closed with a gasketing system. The caulking material, foam sealant or gasketing system shall be designed for the conditions at the penetration location and shall be compatible with the pipe, sleeve and building materials in contact with the sealing materials. Annular spaces created by pipes penetrating fire-resistance-rated assemblies or membranes of such assemblies shall be sealed or closed in accordance with Section 713 of the International Building Code Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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